Merseyrail Class 777 introduction updates

[Trains Trains]

It's intelligent because it can be closed

 

[Trains Trains]

My guess is you deliver to Kirkdale (the customers delivery address) as before, formally check ok after transit and then sort out storage issues after successful receipt at Kirkdale. To deliver elsewhere starts muddying the water if units are found to 'have a problem' at a later time if delivered elsewhere, e.g. was it caused by delivery in transit from Europe or the new storage location? [note - I am not connected with the project but managed projects/contracts before retiring.]

Then move a unit at a time under own power to Southport P3 and then drag into the non-electrified sidings.

Correct Trev.

 

[chiltern trev]

Video posted on Twitter of more 777 testing taking place overnight, with sandbags in the passenger saloons, presumably to simulate the weight of a fully-loaded train.

https://twitter.com/HightownVillage/status/1283698611310690304

What is the definition of fully loaded? All seats taken? Or all seats taken and a crush standing load? So presumably to achieve the latter the door vestibules will have been crammed with bags.

Say 300 people at 12 stone/ 76 kg = 22,000. Any advance?

And at some point no doubt there will be the fully loaded rescue hill start tests!

 

[Bletchleyite]

Correct Trev. The will still get delivered to Kirkdale. Be commissioned then stored at Butchers etc. They will all need to be modified first before service so not sure where this will happen. Some will be modified in Crewe

What mods are needed?

 

[Trains Trains]

What is the definition of fully loaded? All seats taken? Or all seats taken and a crush standing load? So presumably to achieve the latter the door vestibules will have been crammed with bags.

Say 300 people at 12 stone/ 76 kg = 22,000. Any advance?

And at some point no doubt there will be the fully loaded rescue hill start tests!

 

[Gareth]

Gonna miss the opening windows via which I could toast marshmallows on those lineside fires.

 

[chiltern trev]

This has already been done. All of the sand bags will be removed next week which completes that side of the testing. 507 rescued and managed to pull a fully loaded 777 up Leeds streets bank

But can a fully loaded 777 pull another fully loaded 777 up Leeds Street bank? A future test? I presume Leeds Street bank is one of the steepest inclines.

 

[L401CJF]

Was the 507 rescuing exercise planned or due to a fault with the 777?

 

[Bow Fell]

Was the 507 rescuing exercise planned or due to a fault with the 777?

Planned.

Although the 507 did suffer auxiliary problems after it!

 

[Bletchleyite]

Gonna miss the opening windows via which I could toast marshmallows on those lineside fires.

I wouldn't call what they have now opening windows - it's a crack at best. While putting blocks on them might have stopped seat squabs getting chucked out (a big problem in the 80s and 90s, you saw them all along the lineside) it also means the ventilation is woefully inadequate.

 

[paddyb6]

003 > ELP tonight on test with the sandbags, stopping at each station from around 00:00.

 

[M28361M]

When is daytime testing likely to begin? After the mods are done at Crewe?

 

[jamesst]

When is daytime testing likely to begin? After the mods are done at Crewe?

Probably when more than just driver managers can actually drive the new stock.

 

[M28361M]

777006 is scheduled to be delivered this week apparently, according to “Mersey Railways” on Facebook.

 

[DJH1971]

777006 is scheduled to be delivered this week apparently, according to “Mersey Railways” on Facebook.

Heard it's going to Crewe instead of Kirkdale.

 

[Trains Trains]

What is the definition of fully loaded? All seats taken? Or all seats taken and a crush standing load? So presumably to achieve the latter the door vestibules will have been crammed with bags.

Say 300 people at 12 stone/ 76 kg = 22,000. Any advance?

And at some point no doubt there will be the fully loaded rescue hill start tests!

 

[Trains Trains]

Heard it's going to Crewe instead of Kirkdale.

No

 

[Pacef8]

I spoke to a couple of guys at bebington unloading a rail cherry picker for last nights possession work. The second time they have come up from cymbran with the two. They said their was non in the area that could do the job. Whatever it was?

 

[Trains Trains]

Probably when more than just driver managers can actually drive the new stock.

Planned.

Although the 507 did suffer auxiliary problems after it!

 

[DJH1971]

No it's due Thursday 23rd at Kirkdale

Thought it was going to Crewe first for modifications?

 

[tetudo boy]

The merseyrail website says 'intelligent air conditioning' so yes but I'm not sure what they mean by intelligent.

It's actually HVAC, although I may be wrong.

 

[Trains Trains]

Thought it was going to Crewe first for modifications?

 

[Cheshire Rover]

Does anyone know whether 008 is still scheduled to be installed with the full on battery pack?

 

[urbophile]

Still have to wait for NR to give the ok after the issues with track circuits etc that other new rolling stocks have affected. Drivers can't drive the new train untill the issue over guards has been fully agreed. I would imagine we will see the train during normal traffic soon, although probably during off peak

Are we going to see 4-car units on the Southport-Hunts Cross line even though we might have to wait for infrastructure modifications before they can double up? Or are we stuck with the 507/8s indefinitely?

 

[Bletchleyite]

Are we going to see 4-car units on the Southport-Hunts Cross line even though we might have to wait for infrastructure modifications before they can double up? Or are we stuck with the 507/8s indefinitely?

It could well be that the "return to commuting" is low enough that you won't need double sets?

 

[Bletchleyite]

It's actually HVAC, although I may be wrong.

HVAC is a generic term, meaning "Heating, Ventilation and Air Conditioning". It doesn't describe a particular type of any of those, more an area of business or a building/vehicle service.

 

[prod_pep]

It could well be that the "return to commuting" is low enough that you won't need double sets?

No, it's not low enough as it is. They have been using 6 cars on the Southport line in the peaks since it returned to 15 minute operation. Before that, it had been 15 minutes in the peak with 6 cars and 30 minutes outside these times for weeks.

There is absolutely no way a 4 car 777 will be acceptable in peak times on the Southport and Ormskirk lines, COVID or not.

 

[Trains Trains]

Does anyone know whether 008 is still scheduled to be installed with the full on battery pack?

 

[trainmania100]

Path just gone in for 777006(?) On Wednesday morning to Kirkdale

Train 6X29 Dollands Moor Sdgs to Kirkdale C.S. | Rail Record

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[DJH1971]

The Mersey Railways page on Facebook is reporting that tomorrow's move is off.

The train has failed in France apparently.