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Met Line - 2/9 - 5/9
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Dstock7080
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Nothing in print about how reduced the services will be.
It's likely that Baker Street pfms. 1 and 4 will be out of commission.
It's lack of trained drivers for the new CBTC section which goes live this weekend.
All trains (MET, Circle, District, H&C) will have to be conducted by IOs Instructor Operators during the initial stages, until the have clocked up sufficient knowledge to take the train alone.
It's likely that Baker Street pfms. 1 and 4 will be out of commission.
It's lack of trained drivers for the new CBTC section which goes live this weekend.
All trains (MET, Circle, District, H&C) will have to be conducted by IOs Instructor Operators during the initial stages, until the have clocked up sufficient knowledge to take the train alone.
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Dstock7080
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IOs will board at Finchley Road
simple simon
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Its a pity it was not this week, when people are still on holiday. Next week the holidays will mostly be over and the schools reopen, so there will be many more people travelling.
Dstock7080
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LU specifically wanted to avoid the Bank Holiday weekend due to the thousands of people visiting the Notting Hill Carnival.
Tuesday to Friday this week??
transmanche
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There's no Met line service south of Wembley Park this weekend, and the service reductions next week are presumably linked to that work. (I'm guessing that work is commissioning the new signalling.)
So, to have the service reductions this week would have been doing the commissioning over the bank holiday weekend. Something that @Dstock7080 said that LU specifically wanted to avoid.
Harsig
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The changeover to the new signalling can only be realistically done during a weekend. Therefore since it couldn't be done during the bank holiday weekend just gone, it has to wait until this coming weekend.
bluegoblin7
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Yes. You couldn't reverse any meaningful service in Baker 3 whilst still supporting a through service.
Unlikely there'll be any additional Aldgate trains due to capacity there, but it would be possible to run a few extras through to Moorgate squeezed amongst the C&H services, off peak only. At peak time the City is already at capacity, with the bay platforms at Moorgate being required for resiliency for both the C&H and Met.
Unlikely there'll be any additional Aldgate trains due to capacity there, but it would be possible to run a few extras through to Moorgate squeezed amongst the C&H services, off peak only. At peak time the City is already at capacity, with the bay platforms at Moorgate being required for resiliency for both the C&H and Met.
Ok thanks. So it could be half the normal service peak time then ( based on very roughly 50/50 Aldgate/Baker St normally)
Dstock7080
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In the hour 0800-0900 there are currently 14 Aldgate, 8 Baker Street trains
Or, more likely, terminating Baker St trains at Wembley Park.
It's only 4tph off-peak that terminate at Baker St (Watford trains) - so perhaps they'd fit. But if you need two members of staff, in order to train, I can't see it.
Peak times it's 14-15 through to Aldgate and 9-10 terminating at Baker Street. They won't fit.
That was my obvious thought too. Any chance of confirmation from those with more information?
bluegoblin7
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The plan is still being finalised but the expectation is Baker Street services reversing via Neasden Depot for their own northbound working. It’s essentially the reverse of the “disruption in the City” plan which is to reverse the Aldgates via Neasden.
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I do Rickmansworth to Chalfont & Latimer every day so expected outer parts of the line to be in bad shape and unfortunately have been proved right. Appreciate they gave vague warnings of disruption but when the platformer is announcing that there won’t be another Chesham bound for a while, whilst a Chesham bound crawls out of a siding into the platform. Brushed off with a comical “well that one snuck in” but not reassured of the level of inter company communication here!
Of course there's always going to be disruption with something as major as this, but the communication from TfL has been poor - vague e-mails and posters with very little specific information about the revised service. A temporary timetable would have been useful.
Station customer service and information has been very variable as well. Staff at Harrow-on-the-Hill hopeless, while at Wembley Park and Finchley Road they were brilliant.
Station customer service and information has been very variable as well. Staff at Harrow-on-the-Hill hopeless, while at Wembley Park and Finchley Road they were brilliant.
simple simon
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yes, but maybe you will have to wait a few weeks / not on Friday coming
Given the other lines have run flawlessly so far this week I'm gonna have to assume driver training.
It's as per the posts 1 & 2.
bluegoblin7
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This morning was compounded by two defective trains on the C&H, in both cases the trains were non-communicating and required Restricted Manual moves.
There’s been a couple of NCTs on the Met this week too, although generally masked by the wider disruption.
The signalling system itself has been performing flawlessly with issues being either fleet or staff training.
There’s been a couple of NCTs on the Met this week too, although generally masked by the wider disruption.
The signalling system itself has been performing flawlessly with issues being either fleet or staff training.
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