Metrolink M5000 Fleet Status

[familyguy99]

Only one that's stopped at the moment is 3083, not sure why though.

What about 3116 as I read somewhere that this tram have been out of service since August/Sept due to wheel problems or rough riding?

 

[ValleyLines142]

3022 has been branded with bees, to represent the worker bee, which has become a symbol of solidarity following the Manchester attack on 22 May.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-40151349

A tram paying tribute to the "spirit of Manchester" has begun to run on the city's Metrolink network.

​Tram 3022 has a design inspired by the worker bee, which has become a symbol of solidarity following the Manchester attack on 22 May.

It will carry people travelling to the One Love Manchester charity concert at Old Trafford cricket ground later.

Free travel on the service is being offered to those who show staff a ticket for the concert.

In the days following the terrorist attack at Ariana Grande's concert, hundreds of people queued at Manchester tattoo parlours to get bee tattoos.

One city centre studio was faced with 800 potential customers and an 80-year-old grandmother chose the bee as her first inking.

Greater Manchester Mayor Andy Burnham said: "The incredible spirit of the people of Manchester has been what has sustained us all since last week.

"The Manchester Bee has taken on a new significance over recent days and it is fitting that we display it proudly as many of us head to what will be a memorable and moving event."

Lovely touch to be fair. Looks quite nice too!

 

[507021]

Does anyone know the depot allocations for the Metrolink fleet please?

 

[Altfish]

Does anyone know the depot allocations for the Metrolink fleet please?

I'm not sure they are allocated to one depot or the other.
3001-60 only can run on Altrincham and Bury lines but both depots service that line.

 

[TC60054]

I'm not sure they are allocated to one depot or the other.
3001-60 only can run on Altrincham and Bury lines but both depots service that line.

3001-3060 can run network wide, 3061-3120 can't run on the Bury / Altrincham lines.

 

[Altfish]

3001-3060 can run network wide, 3061-3120 can't run on the Bury / Altrincham lines.

That's what I said ?

 

[ValleyLines142]

That's what I said ?

Think it was just confirmation more than trying to prove you wrong!

 

[snowball]

Perhaps TC60054 misread Altfish's "only can" as "can only".

 

[TC60054]

Perhaps TC60054 misread Altfish's "only can" as "can only".

Whoops, you're quite correct there

Note to self, read properly before replying. My apologies Altfish.

 

[507021]

Thanks for the information, all.

 

[CC 72100]

There seems to have been some re-recording of announcements, with also some re-wording at the same time. They seem a lot quicker and more 'upbeat'. 3074 is the first one I've come across so far.

 

[ValleyLines142]

There seems to have been some re-recording of announcements, with also some re-wording at the same time. They seem a lot quicker and more 'upbeat'. 3074 is the first one I've come across so far.

Yes! She sounds more enthusiastic (and similarly more Northern ), she's loving MediaCity!

 

[Jamesrob637]

Sorry to bring up a somewhat old thread, but are more services running as doubles now and not just on days of United or City home matches? Swear I saw a double running the Etihad to Altrincham the other day and neither team were at home... so does that mean Alty gets constant doubles now, at least in the peaks?

 

[Altfish]

Sorry to bring up a somewhat old thread, but are more services running as doubles now and not just on days of United or City home matches? Swear I saw a double running the Etihad to Altrincham the other day and neither team were at home... so does that mean Alty gets constant doubles now, at least in the peaks?

It still tends to be Alty to Bury doubles, Alty to Ethiad singles except on match days.
There was a day when something happened in town (was it that slow speed shunt?) when they swapped them round for operational reasons.

 

[Jamesrob637]

It still tends to be Alty to Bury doubles, Alty to Ethiad singles except on match days.
There was a day when something happened in town (was it that slow speed shunt?) when they swapped them round for operational reasons.

Doubles on Alty to Etihad today and no match? Mind you there was a City home match last night...

 

[Jamesrob637]

Double again on the Etihad line. Again, no home matches

 

[Altfish]

Double again on the Etihad line. Again, no home matches

Yes, I caught a double from Piccadilly. Wonder if they've swapped them over for Xmas??

 

[Altfish]

Just looked at my tram app for departures from Altrincham

Ethiad Campus 2mins single
Ethiad Campus 14mins double
Bury 16mins double
Ethiad Campus 22mins single

So not sure what is happening, using some spare units to double others up?

 

[familyguy99]

Sorry to bring up a somewhat old thread, but are more services running as doubles now and not just on days of United or City home matches? Swear I saw a double running the Etihad to Altrincham the other day and neither team were at home... so does that mean Alty gets constant doubles now, at least in the peaks?

Just looked at my tram app for departures from Altrincham

Ethiad Campus 2mins single
Ethiad Campus 14mins double
Bury 16mins double
Ethiad Campus 22mins single

So not sure what is happening, using some spare units to double others up?

TFGM have confirm that new substation on Altrincham and Bury lines are now allowed more double trams to run on them lines so this seem to be reason into why both of your are seeing more double trams along Altrincham route.

https://tfgm.com/news/more-trams-for-metrolink-busiest-lines

More double trams will run at the busiest times on Metrolink’s two most-used tram lines.

Four extra trams will be used to run more ‘doubles’ at peak times on the Bury and Altrincham lines.

The news follows major investment in new electrical substations on these lines to power more double trams.

Last year the Bury and Altrincham lines alone carried more than 40% of all customer journeys, making them Metrolink’s busiest.

We own the Metrolink network and we’re responsible for planning for its future. We know more trams are needed so that Metrolink can continue to grow and keep people moving.

This is just the first step to help make more room for customers, and we want to make more improvements as soon as possible.

We’re looking closely at what we can do in the short term to make more room on other busy lines.

We’re also building a business case to bid for government funding for more trams.

Read the full news release for more information.

 

[507 001]

There has been two double units out on ALT-ETIHADs for about 3 weeks now.

 

[ValleyLines142]

Think the Eccles Line could do with one or two doubles out, caught an Ashton service on Monday at 7am and it was very busy!

 

[Bungle965]

We are now at the point where Metrolink is becoming a victim of it's own success, with the consistent rise it passenger numbers the network is now getting to the point where it is running out of available capacity. The substations on the Bury and Althincham line will help to an extent however there are only a finite amount of trams available to strengthen services and there will be even less when the Trafford Centre line opens. I believe TfGM are building up a business case for more trams which will help, but obviously will not be available for a good few years.
Attached shows the tram occupancy rates in the morning peak.
Sam

 

[Altfish]

We are now at the point where Metrolink is becoming a victim of it's own success, with the consistent rise it passenger numbers the network is now getting to the point where it is running out of available capacity. The substations on the Bury and Althincham line will help to an extent however there are only a finite amount of trams available to strengthen services and there will be even less when the Trafford Centre line opens. I believe TfGM are building up a business case for more trams which will help, but obviously will not be available for a good few years.
Attached shows the tram occupancy rates in the morning peak.
Sam

Interesting diagram.
It should also be pointed out that that the Eccles/Media City Line has a high loading outbound in morning rush; I suspect the Airport line will be the same.

 

[CC 72100]

Interesting diagram.
It should also be pointed out that that the Eccles/Media City Line has a high loading outbound in morning rush; I suspect the Airport line will be the same.

Indeed, when commuting on that line, being in the city centre for around 08:20 (so possibly 30 minutes or so before the main rush), trams to Mediacity were busier than city-bound services.

 

[Altfish]

I was on the tram from Altrincham to Manchester yesterday later than I'm normally, at about 0810.
I was again struck by how full the trams heading out of Manchester were. Mainly with school kids.

 

[Dentonian]

Has the increase in patronage accelerated since 2CC opened? I'm wondering how much of the increase has literally spread to local rail services, bearing in mind all rail tickets to/from M'cr include cross city Metrolink. Conversely, how much has the increased patronage on both rail modes impacted on bus use? In the case of heavy rail, this might take longer to become clear as some some people switching from bus to rail will need to "resource" a car (as driver or passenger) to get to their nearest Station.

 

[WatcherZero]

Some of the older lines saw slight falls while the 2CC works were taking place while the new lines were still growing, the patronage is returning to the old lines while the new continue to grow.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

I am told that 27 additional M5000s have been ordered earlier this week...

 

[Dentonian]

I am told that 27 additional M5000s have been ordered earlier this week...

All part of a £243 million package agreed with Whitehall, in return for having an elected Mayor. Its £80 million on trams and £160 million for cycle lanes priorities. Other plans include changing Traffic Light priorities (very explicit) and turning Bus Lanes into HOV lanes, which has rekindled demands to scrap all bus lanes full stop.

 

[Altfish]

I am told that 27 additional M5000s have been ordered earlier this week...

Are they definitely M5000s? Because when the last order was completed we were told that production line had closed down.