Middle Eastern 70 For the UK?

[fgwrich]

It would appear then that we are to get an Extra Class 70 this year, this time it's the European / Middle Eastern / North African Tülomsas built, Class 70 Demonstator loco.

Further more to that, acording to WNXX it would appear to also now be UK Registered.

WNXX

70099...
Further to yesterday's report about the Turkish Class 70 coming to the UK it transpires that 70099 has in the past week or so been registered on the system. 70099 is currently allocated to the MBDL pool.

70099 DEPARTED 0000 00/00 NOW OFF TOPS
NEXT DUE 'A' EXAM IN 1 CYCLE HOURS


70099 BR HQ HQ.R. M-GP'AZ' BKE'AA' TN/HT'0' RA-7 STS'B' SPL/CH OMO
CL.070/0 DGM 70-0AA WHL ARR.'F' 3700H.P. WT 129 TONNES IN SVC 11
LGTH 72 FT/21.9M MAX 075 MPH FUEL 1320 GAL BOILER 0000 GAL CHANNEL-TUNNEL 1
BRKE FCE 84 TONNES HT/INDX 000
LIVERY PO - PVTEOWNED NUMBER OF AXLES:6
REGISTRATION DETAILS: 67GERS
CURRENT ACCUMULATED HOURS: 00000
NEXT EXAM 'A' DUE 00001 CYCLE HOURS NEXT MAJOR EXAM 'B' DUE 00010 CYCLE HOURS
LAST FUELLED '0' AT 00 00/00 HRS RUN SINCE 000?
LAST 'A' EXAM 00000 00/00 LAST MAJOR EXAM ' ' 00000 00/00
LOCO POOL MBDL R/T NOS. 0000/0000

http://www.railwaygazette.com/nc/news/single-view/view/tuelomsas-rolls-out-turkish-powerhaul.html

So that either indicates that it'll be a replacement for 70012 & Possibly 70018, and or that thanks to the UK Fleets reliability, GE Has had no further orders?

 

[60163]

Why 099? Still, new locos are always nice

 

[Schnellzug]

I wonder that FL don't use it in Poland or wherever else they have operations now. Unless they and GE have decided that no one else is likely to order any, so they may as well concentrate them somewhere that they're already familiar with them.

 

[DarloRich]

I wonder that FL don't use it in Poland or wherever else they have operations now. Unless they and GE have decided that no one else is likely to order any, so they may as well concentrate them somewhere that they're already familiar with them.

and where the fire brigade have the skills to extinguish them?

 

[455driver]

I wonder that FL don't use it in Poland

Because the loco is nothing to do with FL, its owned by GE and is going to be trialed by GE over here as an advert to other freight operators, GBRF have been mentioned "off the record" so I cant say anything, oops!

I would think that all freight operators are fully aware of the 70s reputation!

 

[christopher]

It would be slightly ironic then if 70099 caught fire

 

[bigdelboy]

Should have been designated 70999 to assist calling fire brigade.

Should the headline be:


Freigther fries boner kebab with fugly BBQ boners with 86/90 for deserts.

 

[Crossforth]

Don't suppose anyone has any pictures of it yet do they?

 

[DXMachina]

 

[fgwrich]

Apparently it had been sighted in Germany, although no pictures have emerged. So it looks like it's on its way, and should be arriving through the Chunnel in the next few weeks then.

 

[gordonthemoron]

hope it doesnt catch fire in the chunnel

 

[cawky22]

On trial to GBRF , maybe on the Durham Coast coal circuit !!

 

[43067]

it also says in the DEC issue of rail express that colas are going to be trialling it as well. that would be great if it was used on the Durham Coast route as i've never seen one in the north east especially round my neck of the woods.

 

[davido39]

hope it doesnt catch fire in the chunnel

HAHA beat me to it. On another note, does anybody else think
the class 70 looks like the first generation Land Rover? Only less reliable!

 

[jopsuk]

I guess someone will; be giving it a quick lick of yellow before it gets used then?

 

[sprinterguy]

it also says in the DEC issue of rail express that colas are going to be trialling it as well. that would be great if it was used on the Durham Coast route as i've never seen one in the north east especially round my neck of the woods.

Freightliner's 70s work a selection of the Anglo-scottish Heavy Haul coal flows up the ECML from York Holgate and across the Tyne Valley via the Metrocentre to Carlisle, but a 70 on the Durham Coast would be a first as far as I know.

 

[cawky22]

It will be trialed for 3 month and it will be good to see how it handles the incline out ot Tyne Dock with a full load .

 

[Photohunter71]

Wish they'd visit Millerhill or go round the Sub! So if as is stated GBRf are trialling a 70,are they considering buying some or will they and others be trialling out the 68 and if there are any others such as the maxima etc would there be an interest in updating/upgrading the loco stock? This is looking very much like the end of the line for the 66's if DRS are getting 68's and GBRf are trialling out a 70!

 

[alanf]

Freightliner's 70s work a selection of the Anglo-scottish Heavy Haul coal flows up the ECML from York Holgate and across the Tyne Valley via the Metrocentre to Carlisle, but a 70 on the Durham Coast would be a first as far as I know.

A few have worked on the Stillington branch but none for over a year now as far as i know. im also unaware of any working the coast. If youve never seen one try to do it at night its much kinder on the eyes

 

[captainbigun]

Wish they'd visit Millerhill or go round the Sub! So if as is stated GBRf are trialling a 70,are they considering buying some or will they and others be trialling out the 68 and if there are any others such as the maxima etc would there be an interest in updating/upgrading the loco stock? This is looking very much like the end of the line for the 66's if DRS are getting 68's and GBRf are trialling out a 70!

?

The 68 is a high speed Bo-Bo designed for mixed traffic, on today's railway, that's primarily passenger.....because for freight you want a suitably geared machine that can haul heavy loads hence 66 and 70.

68 does not replace 66 or 70.

The 70s have been a disaster, I'd be surprised to see more orders. Perhaps FL would part with some of theirs.

 

[colchesterken]

Instead of new toys that dont work. they need to rebuild the rest of the 60 fleet

 

[ainsworth74]

Instead of new toys that dont work. they need to rebuild the rest of the 60 fleet

FL might like 60s but it isn't their decision as they belong to DBS.

 

[D365]

If only it was that simple...

 

[NightStar]

Any reports as to the cause of the class 70 fires?

Robert

 

[Oswyntail]

...The 70s have been a disaster.

Really? Anything significant, other than the apparently unrelated fires a few months back. More disastrous than, eg 40s, 43s, 17s, 47s, 60s, 56s. Oh go on - apart from the 66s (and 37s?) are there any diesel types that have not suffered teeting troubles or serious design flaws?

 

[Photohunter71]

I think there will be more 70's on order,but do hope DB get the 60's all up to speed and back on the tracks,I even think there will be more Vossloh types for the UK in the near future.

 

[BananaRepublic]

....do hope DB get the 60's all up to speed and back on the tracks......

They don't have any need for all of them to be put back in service, hence only a limited number being put through the refurbishment and upgrade.
Many will be kept for spares, but there will be quite a few sent to the great TMD in the sky.

 

[Beveridges]

go on - apart from the 66s (and 37s?) are there any diesel types that have not suffered teeting troubles or serious design flaws?

66's still do have serious design flaws according to some of the freight drivers they are not very good to say the least

 

[cj_1985]

66's still do have serious design flaws according to some of the freight drivers they are not very good to say the least

i'd be curious to hear what these design flaws are...
ie. are they just the usual comments ie. noise, too warm in the cabs during summer, etc or are they more severe

 

[fgwrich]

i'd be curious to hear what these design flaws are...
ie. are they just the usual comments ie. noise, too warm in the cabs during summer, etc or are they more severe

It also seems to be a case of you get what you pay for. Don't recall hearing many comments against the GBRF 66s from when i was working down in Eastleigh.