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Money should not be wasted on the New Belmond train

RT4038

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In many cases they do subsidise the port facilities, though.
Where they do, there will be a reasoning behind that - either the port is used by other shipping for which subsidies are appropriate, or for the economic benefits that attracting the cruise ships bring.
 
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Where they do, there will be a reasoning behind that - either the port is used by other shipping for which subsidies are appropriate, or for the economic benefits that attracting the cruise ships bring.
In exactly the same way as taxpayers’ money is used to subsidise the railways for appropriate use. If taxes were being used to subsidise the Belmond train that would be wrong - but they are not (at least not beyond the fact that many of the routes it will pay track access charges to use would not be there without subsidy).
 

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This seems like complaining "rich people pay for something, that must be wrong"? Are you also against the owners of a Bentley driving it on the roads, because the rest of us drive Fords or Toyotas?

It's no different from any other charter train, just that this one is extra fancy and expensive. By paying track access charges it'll contribute into the pot of running the railway. That helps to maintain the track etc for the rest of us. There's no public money being spent, if anything it's helping put more into the public pot. I'm not sure how that's too difficult to understand?
 

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This seems like complaining "rich people pay for something, that must be wrong"? Are you also against the owners of a Bentley driving it on the roads, because the rest of us drive Fords or Toyotas?
The politics of envy.
 

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This seems like complaining "rich people pay for something, that must be wrong"? Are you also against the owners of a Bentley driving it on the roads, because the rest of us drive Fords or Toyotas?

It's no different from any other charter train, just that this one is extra fancy and expensive. By paying track access charges it'll contribute into the pot of running the railway. That helps to maintain the track etc for the rest of us. There's no public money being spent, if anything it's helping put more into the public pot. I'm not sure how that's too difficult to understand?
Having been involved in planning top-end charters in the past they certainly made a significant financial contribution to running the rest of the railway.
 

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As Churchill said, the inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings, the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries. Just enjoy the share of blessing you have:smile:
 
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This train actually transfers wealth from the rich to the not so rich - they are paying for the labour and skills from the traderpeople doing the refurbishment, the people who will get work from staffing the train, the people making and supplying the food and drink they consume etc.
 

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This train actually transfers wealth from the rich to the not so rich - they are paying for the labour and skills from the traderpeople doing the refurbishment, the people who will get work from staffing the train, the people making and supplying the food and drink they consume etc.
Exactly - and, at the "visiting locations" it also has a potential money-earner for local communities.
Post #8 cites the examples I gave to cygnus44, last November.
 

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