HSTEd
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Now maybe we should use this list to determine what bridges should be rebuilt to have greater clearances........
Would be rather expensive though
Would be rather expensive though
The GWSR put a fixed structure on the road bridge at Broadway after many hits.
There are some bridges in the UK that already have that type of advance warning system, be it chains and bells or more substantial metalwork before the bridge. Still doesn't stop some of the bridges being bashed.I've often wondered why they don't build a frame - perhaps made of metal and hinged so no one walking by get's hit, a few meters in front of the bridge which is the same size as the bridge.
If the lorry is to big and goes through it the driver would know he'd hit it and stop immediately before hitting the actual bridge?
A previous employer used to get quite irate with me for refusing to drive double-deck buses under a bridge with the circular signs; even though I knew certain vehicles would pass under the bridge without incident. They didn't seem to grasp it was still an offence.The A5 bridge is "Protected" by warning signs well in advance of the bridge giving drivers a warning whilst they can still turn round.
There are also substantial beams protecting the bridge.
Interestingly the height signs before and also on the bridge are red circle prohibition signs, not just the usual triangular warning signs. This means that overheight vehicles are contravening a prohibition for which they can be directly prosecuted.
Actually NR should have considerable interest. The RAIB accident reports into multiple level crossing incidents have directly highlighted that the risk assessments done have assumed the HGV drivers have done the UK HGV training and testing, which includes level crossing procedures. But the drivers of the vehicles in the incidents were from other EU countries whose licences are fully valid but such training does not take place.Sorry, yes. Obviously the police collect details on drivers, number plates, etc etc. NR will collect ownership details (and a number plate often helps ) to pursue insurers. But NR has no interest in the driver’s nationality, and I don’t see how it is relevant.
Actually NR should have considerable interest. The RAIB accident reports into multiple level crossing incidents have directly highlighted that the risk assessments done have assumed the HGV drivers have done the UK HGV training and testing, which includes level crossing procedures. But the drivers of the vehicles in the incidents were from other EU countries whose licences are fully valid but such training does not take place.
Time was of course when UK HGVs were invariably driven by UK-licenced drivers. Not any more.
Paras. 22 and 74 (and photos of the wreckage) in the Sudbury accident RAIB report here
Ah. Then you would have been able to speak to the HGV driver and discover this. It's comparable to a bridge strike because it is inappropriate handling of a large vehicle which causes real risk to the railway users.Yes I know all about that incident as I was there.
However it is a very different scenario to a bridge bash.
Ah. Then you would have been able to speak to the HGV driver and discover this. It's comparable to a bridge strike because it is inappropriate handling of a large vehicle which causes real risk to the railway users.
At least two of the bridges on the list have 'bypass' level crossings. In both cases, the main route for traffic is under the bridge, so to use the crossing, high vehicles must turn off the main road and rejoin. In one direction, this means that the high vehicle needs to cross the traffic coming the other way at both ends of the crossing.
Is there some reason that in places like that, the bridge cannot be closed and all traffic forced to use the crossing?