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Discussion in 'Infrastructure & Stations' started by nuneatonmark, 26 Sep 2019.
Thameslink, but specfically the Bermondsey fly-unders. Countless hours of delays saved.
Didn't the service run through to Maidstone West and/or Tunbridge Wells at some point in the 2000s?
GTR and SE heading to the top of the "complex network"* performance stats...
*i.e. simple network includes C2C and Chiltern
SE have been there for a while!
Indeed but that isn't a common perception!
And SE MTIN figures look more honest than some other TOCs were too.
It's useful for when South Eastern have to divert Hastings services that way when Sevenoaks is closed for engineering works.
I remember when it was possible to travel from Strood as far as Three Bridges - possibly in the very late 90s
Redhill station layout is appalling.
The new platform 0 is normally home to a reversing 3-car GWR turbo-star, thereby blocking through services using this platform.
Platform 1 is now a very long 10-car bay platform, home to the 3-car Electrostar shuttle to Tonbridge.
Platform 2 is a busy through platform for Northbound services.
Platform 3 is a busy through platform for Southbound services.
I travel on Thameslink services and the services are invariably always held outside the station awaiting a platform to become free.
The reason, there is only a single through platform for Southbound services.
Thameslink services complete with local Southern services to Reigate. And there is also crossing Southern and GWR services.
Platform 1 should become a through platform once again. This would allow northbound services to use this platform and free capacity on platform 2 to be used for more southbound services.
Platform 0 and 1 for Northbound and terminating services.
Platform 2 for Southbound and Northbound services.
Platform 3 for Southbound and terminating services.
I thought that the idea of making Platform 1 at Redhill into a bay was to avoid any issues with overruns, overlaps or conflicting moves with Platform 2 in either direction. I presume that it would not be acceptable to have a 12-car running northbound into a through Platform 1 as a southbound train ran into Platform 2 and a train from the Reigate line arrived in parallel at Platform 0 for example.
Given that there are often four trains per hour terminating or reversing at Redhill from the south in the space of an hour, having one south-facing bay hardly seems excessive when compared with other stations.
(I am well aware of the more detailed criticisms of Redhill such as revenue protection from Platform 3, the positioning of indicators and stop boards in relation to canopies but am not attempting to re-open discussion on these points.)
I didn’t think Redhill would rate the description “large infrastructure project” anyway? On a scale of 1 to 10 I’d give it about 1.1...
Could P1 not be linked into the top half of Platform 0 and then have a midway signal on platform 0 to protect the points (if that makes sense). If a 12 car then needs to use Platform 0, it can do but P1 then can only be used southbound. If however it's a GWR 'reverse', it could be done on P0 still while allowing platform 1 to be used as a through platform.
Do they not have signals at each end for reversible working, as it is at reading?. If so why don't they use it, save on trains waiting.
Beginning to wander off topic, but I've always thought Redhill could do with some high level platforms and connect the Tonbridge-Redhill and Redhill- to Reading lines into one. (bonus frieght avoiding London as well if need be) The only problem in that plan being the geography, the station being situated in a rather steep valley.
To answer the question, The Borders line is quite popular, so must be in with a shout.
That was one of Dr. Beeching's ideas. About 55 years ago!
And it wasn’t a very good idea then either.
Dr. Beeching of course was thinking about it as a trunk route for freight from Dover to the West Midlands and the North, not as a passenger railway. I doubt if platforms at Redhill entered his mind!
Redhill issues are normally a Thameslink service being held due to the Reigate service blocking platform 3, because it is being held up by a late running GWR Reading service.
While the other 3 platforms stand empty.
A total bottleneck.