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WestRiding

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I will be arriving at Munich by ICE train which I presume will arrive under the main train shed. My connecting service is a EC Euro City bound for Innsbruck. Does anybody know which part of the huge station this may go from?
 
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It will also leave from the main trainshed, generally at the south end (lower platform numbers)
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BTW, the Zugfuhrer guide on the ICE train will tell you which platform the EC leaves from
 

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To give an answer you must tells us at what time you arrive and depart from Muenchen. The ICE from Stuttgart arrives often at track 19 and departure is 13 and 15; so close by.

You should only worry if the train arrives at track 5 till 10 and depart from 27 to 36 or v.v.. The first are often for trains to Mühldorf; the other to Garmisch, Kempten, Kochel and surroundings.
 

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ICE arrives Munich at 1704.
EH departs Munich for innsbruck at 1738.
Thanks people.
 

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If you use the DB website and input your journey, and click on your chosen connection, it tells you.
There is also an arrivals/ departures page for each station.

As it happens, I was lucky with my fist attempt, so it's here to show you:

https://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/query2.exe/dn?ld=15073&protocol=https:&seqnr=1&ident=ag.01278073.1469690704&rt=1&rememberSortType=minDeparture&HWAI=JS!ajax=yes!js=yes!&HWAI=CONNECTION$C0-2!id=C0-2!HwaiConId=C0-2!HwaiDetailStatus=details!;~CONNECTION$C0-2!HwaiMapStatus=UNDEFINED!HwaiMapNumber=UNDEFINED!HwaiMapSlider=UNDEFINED!HwaiDetailHimMessage=UNDEFINED!;

Arrive 22, depart 13, in case the link doesn't work. Sorry it's the German site.
 

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As said ICE 627 arrives in Muenchen on track 22 at 17.04. Be aware that in Koeln this ICE departs from Messe/Deutz. If you travel from London; you have 30 minutes to arrive there in Messe/Deutz.
 

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As said ICE 627 arrives in Muenchen on track 22 at 17.04. Be aware that in Koeln this ICE departs from Messe/Deutz. If you travel from London; you have 30 minutes to arrive there in Messe/Deutz.

Thanks. My trains are;
Brussels to Frankfurt
Frankfurt to Munich
Munich to Innsbruck

No changeless at Koeln.
 

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Well, the trip has been and gone. The whole experience was quite poor and nearly turned to disaster for the holiday. The Eurostar (0650) to Brussels was 15 late arriving at Brussels giving 5 minutes to get to the Frankfurt ICE train. Possible, but a rush. But upon getting off the Eurostar at Brussels, the quick connections corridor was closed, no access. So everyone had to run or rush toward the front of the train down the totally inadequate steps to the main concourse, and we then got to the ICE with literally seconds to spare. The ICE trains were typically poor performers, the Frankfurt one losing 17 Mins on route, leaving another tight connection for the Munich ICE which lost 10 mins on route to Munich. The only on time train was the OBB EC to Innsbruck. It will definitely be plane next time, as the rail experience proved too risky despite proper connections, not helped by Brussels station Correspondences subway. Just proves that European trains and stations are actually no better than ours.
 

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Well, the trip has been and gone. The whole experience was quite poor and nearly turned to disaster for the holiday. The Eurostar (0650) to Brussels was 15 late arriving at Brussels giving 5 minutes to get to the Frankfurt ICE train. Possible, but a rush. But upon getting off the Eurostar at Brussels, the quick connections corridor was closed, no access. So everyone had to run or rush toward the front of the train down the totally inadequate steps to the main concourse, and we then got to the ICE with literally seconds to spare. The ICE trains were typically poor performers, the Frankfurt one losing 17 Mins on route, leaving another tight connection for the Munich ICE which lost 10 mins on route to Munich. The only on time train was the OBB EC to Innsbruck. It will definitely be plane next time, as the rail experience proved too risky despite proper connections, not helped by Brussels station Correspondences subway. Just proves that European trains and stations are actually no better than ours.

To be fair, for the distances travelled the delays were minimal and only and issue due to the tight connections. The 20 minute connection at Brussels is always tight and not recommended but apart from that it sounded virtually trouble free apart from slight delays.
 

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Now book a KLM flight with change at Schiphol, after running the length of an airport and going through security and passport checks again you will wish you had caught a train...
 

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Now book a KLM flight with change at Schiphol, after running the length of an airport and going through security and passport checks again you will wish you had caught a train...

Bristol flights can have 40 minute connections as Schiphol which include a bus from the arriving plane and passport control and a bus to your connecting plane...obviously a serenely peaceful connection....not.
 

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being a nervous sort, I try not to do journeys which involve more than 2 German services. Next month I'm doing Binz-Peenemunde which is 4 or 5 services depending on the time of day, oh joy
 

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I think the quick connection corridor was closed after the Brussels terrorist attacks. I'm never comfortable with a 20 min connection at Brussels, but with a through ticket at least you will be able to catch the next service. It does mean you'll be late at the destination, and I don't know what would happen if there wasn't another train that day. Can anyone enlighten me?

I do enjoy travelling on ICE trains. I must have been lucky, because every one I've ever caught has been on time. That includes one in Switzerland which had come a very long way to get to Interlaken!
 

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Binz-Peenemunde which is 4 or 5 services depending on the time of day

I counted about 12 services with all changes in Stralsund and Zinnowitz in 3 hours and 23 minutes. Even on a Sunday; you depart on 7.02 from Binz and are at 10.27 in Peenemünde! Where do you get your information from?

In Peenemünde i went inside a WW2 bunker. What i remember it was a depressing landscape.
 

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I counted about 12 services with all changes in Stralsund and Zinnowitz in 3 hours and 23 minutes. Even on a Sunday; you depart on 7.02 from Binz and are at 10.27 in Peenemünde! Where do you get your information from?

In Peenemünde i went inside a WW2 bunker. What i remember it was a depressing landscape.

Think Gordon means the number of trains involved not the frequency. Without checking, it must average 3 changes and 4 trains
 

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I think the quick connection corridor was closed after the Brussels terrorist attacks. I'm never comfortable with a 20 min connection at Brussels, but with a through ticket at least you will be able to catch the next service. It does mean you'll be late at the destination, and I don't know what would happen if there wasn't another train that day. Can anyone enlighten me?

I do enjoy travelling on ICE trains. I must have been lucky, because every one I've ever caught has been on time. That includes one in Switzerland which had come a very long way to get to Interlaken!

Sometimes even before the attacks, the quick connection corridor etc has been closed, I think I have only ever used it once. I always allow a much longer connection at Brussels and other stations when going on connecting services. The extra time not only allows fro any delays, but also gives you the chance to buy some food/drink for the next train, or maybe have meal whilst awaiting the onward train.

However, I have had problems at Brussels either when Eurostar was late & I missed the Thalys or ICE to Koln, or If the ICE has been cancelled, inspite of it not being my fault, Thalys would not accept my ICE ticket and ICE would not accept my Thalys ticket. So they delay was lengthened.
 

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Got a reply from Eurostar today confirming that the quick connections corridor is closed as a result of the attacks, for the long term.
 

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My observation from regular trips to Germany in recent years is that delays just have to be expected. Mostly they are not massive, but if you have tight connections, you could be put under some stress. Better to plan in some leeway and use any extra time for refreshments and chilling out!
 

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My observation from regular trips to Germany in recent years is that delays just have to be expected. Mostly they are not massive, but if you have tight connections, you could be put under some stress. Better to plan in some leeway and use any extra time for refreshments and chilling out!

Have DB given up on holding connections? It did make the lateness less painful, but often meant the whole network being 20 minutes late by the end of the day.

Happens in CH sometimes too - engineering work with single line working slows a route down, and so everything else waits.
 

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Yes, DB's long-distance punctuality isn't fantastic, but you have to realise the long distances a lot of the trains cover - think CrossCountry in pre-Virgin days, the trains pass through so many pinch-points that it's often very difficult to make up time. I have found, it seems contrary to some posters here, that DB often still hold connections, I suppose it depends how late the first train is or how busy the station is and if the platform is needed by another train which would in turn be delayed. If you're that worried by it, as others have suggested, plan longer connections and if it's all on time then you've got time for a pint or two ;)

And following my recent experience after touching down at Stansted (forty-five minutes sitting on the tarmac waiting for some steps so we could actually get off the plane, followed by a one-hour delay waiting for our luggage - ludicrous!), I'll be using the train (and ferry where convenient) to get to mainland Europe for the foreseeable future!
 
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My observation from regular trips to Germany in recent years is that delays just have to be expected. Mostly they are not massive, but if you have tight connections, you could be put under some stress. Better to plan in some leeway and use any extra time for refreshments and chilling out!

Totally agree with longer connection times, not a problem on shorter journeys, but on, say, London to Innsbruck it is not so easy, because you risk not getting there the same day. In which case I would choose air travel.
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Yes, DB's long-distance punctuality isn't fantastic, but you have to realise the long distances a lot of the trains cover - think CrossCountry in pre-Virgin days, the trains pass through so many pinch-points that it's often very difficult to make up time. I have found, it seems contrary to some posters here, that DB often still hold connections, I suppose it depends how late the first train is or how busy the station is and if the platform is needed by another train which would in turn be delayed. If you're that worried by it, as others have suggested, plan longer connections and if it's all on time then you've got time for a pint or two ;)

And following my recent experience after touching down at Stansted (forty-five minutes sitting on the tarmac waiting for some steps so we could actually get off the plane, followed by a one-hour delay waiting for our luggage - ludicrous!), I'll be using the train (and ferry where convenient) to get to mainland Europe for the foreseeable future!

Longer connections are not possible all the time. If I choose to have at least an hour at Brussels I end up with 2 hours there, as the ICE is not that regular. Then an hour at Frankfurt and an hour at Munich..... I doubt the journey would be possible in a day leaving on the first Eurostar?
 

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it's two times a week, doesn't give you long in Peenemunde, costs twice as much and is a pain to get to on the bus

Thanks, several years since I last checked the pleasure boat trips!
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Totally agree with longer connection times, not a problem on shorter journeys, but on, say, London to Innsbruck it is not so easy, because you risk not getting there the same day. In which case I would choose air travel.

Whatever mode of transport you use, you have to build in time for delays. If a series of normal connections gets you to destination on the last train of the day, that's obviously risky.
And for me that would also be too much travelling in a day, but that's a matter of personal preference.
ISTR Seat61 has some sensible advice on when to allow more than the minimum time for a connection.
 
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Thanks, several years since I last checked the pleasure boat trips!
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Whatever mode of transport you use, you have to build in time for delays. If a series of normal connections gets you to destination on the last train of the day, that's obviously risky.
And for me that would also be too much travelling in a day, but that's a matter of personal preference.
ISTR Seat61 has some sensible advice on when to allow more than the minimum time for a connection.

Yeah I used the seat61 website along with the connection advice. Good website.
 
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