National Express Crash

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It all seems a bit mysterious I must say. The first thing that sprang to my mind was reckless driving but it says that all coaches are fitted with a 62mph limiter. Is it possible to disable this? Could the coach have skidded on something, or had the brakes been applied too heavily?

It seems strange that the coach toppled - something must have triggered it, as something as stable as a coach can't just fall over!
 

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Watching the BBC news this evening, it appears that the slip road, which featured a bend, had a 40 mph limit - so the bus could feasibly have been speeding. There are, of course, plenty of other possible reasons why it occurred. Hopefully the tachograph will give some answers.
 

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That was what I was thinking, excess speeds when driving double deckers round corners are not comfertable, 1 mistake & thats it (such as clipping the curb which has been indicated as happened)
 

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it says that all coaches are fitted with a 62mph limiter. Is it possible to disable this?
Dead easy to do. Run a couple of wires accross it (wire it out), same with the tacograph (except add a switch this time lol)
You've just disabled the limiter and tachograph



(A car transporter firm had 1/2 its fleet impounded for this exact offence, and 'Trucking' magazine published an account..but only with similar detail)
 

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It looks more than likely the driver was speeding. Apparently, as said in todays press, he was about 30min down on leaving Heathrow Airport due to the problems they've had there with the baggage, so could of been trying to make up time. Took the corner too quick, realised he was in trouble, tried to correct it, BAM! Also, they're looking at whether he fell asleep at the wheel. All possible causes are being looked into anyway, so we will have to wait & see.

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Update from BBC 10 O'Clock News:

The manufacturer, Neoplan, have said all checks have been completed & no defects whatsoever have been found. Btw, the fleet are based not very far from me, Trathens in Burrington Ind. Est., Plymouth.

Update from ITV News at 10.30pm

Eyewitness says coach was going too fast round the said corner, & tipped over after failing to regain control.
 

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Hmm looks like speeding was to blame then. A motorway slip road with a 40mph limit...must be a very tight curve then for them to put such a low limit on it.
 

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The thing is, the coach toppled onto the drivers side. IF speeding was the cause, then the coach would have toppled onto the passengers side as it was going round a right hand bend.
 

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Talking to my friend today, he said that it was reported that the driver could well have crashed into the curb - this would make more sense.
 
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