Network Rail selling 170 tonnes of unwanted electrfication masts

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  1. Cletus

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  3. LNW-GW Joint

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    Trouble is you don't want any more of that gigantic GW Series 1 kit installed anywhere else.
    Windermere isn't going to host 140mph multiple-pantograph trains anytime soon.
    The same low-profile kit as used at Oxenholme for the northern WCML in 1974 will do fine, or that used on the Paisley Canal branch in Scotland.
     
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    UK Master Series would be my likely bet - that covers the best of Series 1 & Series 2 (mainly S2) along with various Mk3, UK1 (from WCRM), GEFF (Great Eastern Furrer+Frey) and SICAT (Siemens Catenary; as used on the Larkhall branch) assemblies.

    Most structures on the WCML were 152x152 UC steel sections, now largely out of favour for higher speeds and higher, independent tensioning arrangements (12kN/15kN for modern equipment); the UKMS range certainly doesn't specify them as standard sections anymore.
    203x203 UC sections are now the smallest sections, and are used on most single track structures. I believe they'll most likely form the majority of structures on the Lakes Line if it *officially* goes ahead. With its lower speed, I wouldn't be surprised if they go for a lower tension value in the C&C too (11kN in each).
     
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    Looking at the GWML 170 tonnes is probably only a handful of gantries!
     
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    Good lord what a waste no wonder it is over budget
     
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    Just a thought, (I’m no expert on these matters so I could be talking rubbish) but why not keep them and use them to shore up some of the more unreliable sections of the ECML...
     
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    The cursed Grayling seems to be able to melt steel to destroy it

    These bits and bobs should be around to complete the electrification.

    Cursed be his name.
     
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    How much does anyone want to bet that as soon as they've sold all of this off and it has gone, the Cardiff to Swansea bit will get re-approved...?
     
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    What about Chippenham-Bath-Bristol-Filton? They are still potentially going ahead aren't they (unless NR know something we don't)
     
  11. PG

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    if that happens will the successful bidder(s) be savvy and sell them back to NR for less than the cost of buying new ones...?!
     
  12. Meerkat

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    This is the massive stuff though. Be better to use less hideous stuff on any future electronification
     
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    Have CAF built their Newport factory yet? Given how overengineered they are then they might be ideal for those modern girder framed type buildings ;)
     
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    There are plenty of deep cuttings they could use it in.
     
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    Exactly right. Or any yards that need wiring - it seems like a criminal waste of public money.
     
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    Reminds me of a story I heard from around the time of rail privatisation. Railtrack sold off a load of bespoke geometry switches and crossings thinking it didn't need the stock, only to have to buy it back at several times the sale price to complete a track renewal scheme. Someone made a lot of money from it.
     
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    If Huntingdon - Woodwalton gets the go-ahead for its restored 4th track, I'm sure they could be put to use there.
     
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    Could these be used for something such as Didcot - Oxford?

    I have no knowledge on the specifics of this.

    -Peter
     
  19. Clip

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    Hold on, before everyone comes up with a plan to find these a home, does anyone know why they are selling them?

    They may be deemed not suitable for use anymore
     
  20. PG

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    Its probably down to a bean counter somewhere... :rolleyes:
     
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    ... and it’s still a lot less than the 1000 tonnes of scrap that was being discussed in early 2018. So it could also just be a bit more of the same, or a much more accurate figure than the original estimate.

    Bit of a mountain out of a molehill I reckon...
     

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