tranzitjim
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Pitty we can not standardise a lot of these curves. Rebuild them to be wider, to permit wider trains to operate within them.
I hope the Bakerloo line stock gets a VERY extensive refurb. Its already the tattiest stock on the tube.
Well, it's been argreed it will have 'life extention works' done, but the extent of these as of yet, no-one's informed me...
Well some parts from the 1967 stock have been used on the 1972 stock. I have seen a few with light blue grab polls.
I wouldnt be too surprised if a few of the 1973 stock did end up on the Baerklooo line perhaps replacing the oldest examples of the 1972 stock.
That said some of the 1973 stock will more than likely end up on the Isle of wight surprised non of the 1967 stock were overhauled/refurbished and sent over there.
I hear the ex-Vic 72 Mk1s still exist in storage somewhere. .
New elastic bands...
I agree the 72ts need a cosmetic referb but mechanically it should be sound as it covers far fewer miles a day compared to the 73ts.
Eastleigh. Some of the ex Vic line cars are being made into LULs test trains, whilst others are in storage. Pretty sure some cars of the Vic lines cars were converted ex Northern Line 72 Mk1 stock as well, which would make ripe use for integrating into the 72 Stock on the Bakerloo line.
Speaking of, some of the tightest curves along that route can also be found in the Oxford Circus area, as well as coming into Piccadilly Circus and the approaches into Paddington.
Finally - I'd like to hope that the designers of any new tube stock for the Piccadilly line take one thing into account, Heathrow. One of the reasons for the 73s extensive refurb was to make better provision for the Airport luggage, so hopefully, any designers of any new stock take this and create a design better than the one shown on the first page - which I notice hasn't really got any wheelchair spaces in sight too.
What will happen to the drivers? Will they all become captains?
What will happen to the drivers? Will they all become captains?
Blimey, Paris has had more advanced stuff for years now; Lines 14 and 1 have fully walk through ( like the S Stock and 378s ) driverless trains with DLR style see through front ends; they don't even need a "Captain" on them.
Ask yourself though, do you feel safe on the Paris Metro?
Do we know which, if any, of the new features will actually cost more money? The physical shape of the train isn't that radical compared to the current designs, only the front is a different shape. I would imagine most of the new technology is under the hood, and that will be the expensive bit.Harlesden said:In this challenging economic climate, does it really make sense to spend millions on a totally new design?
Do we really need walk through articulated tube trains?
Do we really need painfully bright new lighting?
Why not just a brand new build of the current designs incorporating the new technology which did not exist when the original build was delivered.
A train exists to get you from A to B. Nobody particularly cares what the exterior looks like provided it is kept clean.
LED lighting might cost a bit more but it has many advantages (energy consumption, life, ability to keep going from emergency power etc).
I am sure other new materials and designs will help the train last for longer, be easier to clean etc.
So long as it isn't built in Derby...
Well some parts from the 1967 stock have been used on the 1972 stock. I have seen a few with light blue grab polls.
I wouldnt be too surprised if a few of the 1973 stock did end up on the Baerklooo line perhaps replacing the oldest examples of the 1972 stock.
That said some of the 1973 stock will more than likely end up on the Isle of wight surprised non of the 1967 stock were overhauled/refurbished and sent over there.
Be great to see one standard design for 'all deep tube lines' other than the Victorian Line. sad to see these plans would not include that. None the less, it is a start. Perhaps once they have done enough to replace 1972 and 1973 stocks, they may then decide it is time for 1992 stock to go too.
Having said that, could they not have the Northern line operate with a combination of existing 1995 stock and the new stock too?
QUESTIONS,
Q1: would the sum of 1992 stock on Central and Waterloo lines be enough to cater for the proposed Northern line expansion?
If so, they could put all 1992 stock onto the Northern line, and 1995 stock onto central, and the new stock on Waterloo - City?
Speaking of, some of the tightest curves along that route can also be found in the Oxford Circus area, as well as coming into Piccadilly Circus and the approaches into Paddington.
LED lighting might cost a bit more but it has many advantages (energy consumption, life, ability to keep going from emergency power etc).
I am sure other new materials and designs will help the train last for longer, be easier to clean etc.