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Humberside

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Could anyone tell me which of the new franchises will operate the following services:

Birmingham-Leicester stopping services
Birmingham-Nottingham (not the ones that start in Cardiff but the other service than combines with it to give a half hourly Nottingham-Birmingham service)

How many Birmingham-Manchester services an hour will there be and how many will go via and call at Wilmslow

Also what service will Congleton get - how frequent will it be, were will it be to and who will operate it
 
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How many Birmingham-Manchester services an hour will there be and how many will go via and call at Wilmslow

It will replace the Birmingham - Manchester ones via Stoke and Macclesfield Voyagers. Not sure about Wilmslow. Probably down to how many 350s are spare. These services are supposed to have extra stops such as Stone and Penkridge.

Thought Leicester - Birmingham was going to East Midlands franchise? It was Nottingham - Birmingham / Cardiff that was getting XC routes.
 

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Are all the same routes gonna carry on? Are there gonna be new routes along with the new franchises? Are they going to re-livery everything?

I'm going to miss you Midland Mainline :(
 

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why can't the governmet just keep their nose out and let the market decide
 

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Because the Government is trying to save money. At the time when they decided Central Trains should be split is because of poor performance. At one point trains on Shrewsbury Line ran 48% on time! Central have improved performance wise since then because of slacker timetables and splitting up routes.

The Government only cares about 2 things, PPM and Subsidy/Premiums. The government don't care whether your 96% on time but have the dirtiest trains on the network. As long as TOCs meet performance targets and make money, who cares what the passenger wants....
 

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Heres another question - if Cross Country will operate no stations who wil operate stations like South Wigston and Hinckley that only Cross Country will serve?
 

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Thanks for those maps Ascot, i'm sceptical of any service improvements, just hoping the Euston-Brum semifast via Northamptons get reinstated and none of this all shacks Cov-New St nonsense whilst we're at it!

Quite fearful they are going to make a right mess with yet another round of services being split up..... Thats before they realise someone hasn't got enough units to operate what they've been told to!

Have they decided wether the Snow Hill lines are going to be given to Chiltern yet?
 

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www.gnn.gov.uk said:
THE DEPARTMENT FOR TRANSPORT today announced the parties that have qualified as Bidders for the New Cross Country; East Midlands and West Midlands franchises. They are as follows:

New Cross Country franchise:

* Arriva Trains Cross Country Limited (Arriva Group)

* First Cross Country Limited (First Group)

* NXC Trains Limited (National Express Group)

* Virgin Voyager Trains Ltd (Virgin Rail Group)

East Midlands franchise:

* Arriva Trains East Midlands Limited (Arriva Group)

* First East Midlands Limited (First Group)

* NXE Trains Limited (National Express Group)

* Stagecoach Midland Rail Limited (Stagecoach Group)

West Midlands franchise:

* London & Birmingham Railway Limited (Govia)

* MTR Corporation (UK) Limited (MTR Corporation of Hong Kong)

* Serco NedRailways West Midlands Limited (a Joint Venture between Serco and NedRailways)

In addition Chiltern Railways (M40 Trains Ltd, a subsidiary of John Laing plc) are being invited to submit a separate proposal for the Snow Hill services in Birmingham.

DfT issued an advertisement in June 2006 inviting Expressions of Interest in the franchises by 31 July 2006. DfT will now invite the parties to submit detailed bids by issuing Invitations to Tender during Autumn 2006. The closing date for bids is February 2007 and winners will be announced in Summer 2007.

The three new operating franchises will commence on 11 November 2007. End dates of the three new franchises have been phased to match end dates with other relevant franchises and contribute to a smoothing of the future re-franchising programme.

ENDS

Notes to Editors:


1. The New Cross Country franchise takes in services on the current Cross Country franchise as well as Stansted - Birmingham and Cardiff - Nottingham services transferred from the current Central Trains franchise. It is planned that the franchise will run until 31 March 2016, the last 2 years and 4 months of which will be conditional upon achieving pre-set performance targets.

2. The East Midlands franchise will be formed from the current Midland Mainline franchise as well as the Liverpool - Norwich and local services in the East Midlands area transferred from the current Central Trains franchise. It is planned that the franchise will run until 31 March 2015, the last year and 4 months of which will be conditional upon achieving pre-set performance targets.

3. The West Midlands franchise will be made up of the remaining services of the current Central Trains franchise and the current Silverlink County services. However, the Snow Hill services may become part of either the West Midlands franchise or the Chiltern franchise depending on the proposal from Chiltern Railways. It is planned that the West Midlands franchise will run until 19 September 2015, the last year and 10 months of which will be conditional upon achieving pre-set performance targets.

4. It was announced on 18 October 2005 that three new franchises would replace the four existing franchises of Central Trains (National Express Group plc), Silverlink (National Express Group plc), Cross Country (Virgin Trains) and Midland Mainline (National Express Group plc).

5. For further information please contact the Department for Transport press office on 020 7944 3108 or visit http://www.dft.gov.uk, where the advertisement, Prior Information Notices, details on Central Trains Remapping and guidance on railway franchising procurement processes can be found.

Public Enquiries: 020 7944 8300
Department for Transport Website: http://www.dft.gov.uk

GNN ref 138166P

Dug this up while looking around, don't know if it has already been posted.
 

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I believe MTR have sinced dropped out of the running for West Mids.

Says it all that the "big" players are interested in XC and East Mids...
 

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Because the Government is trying to save money. At the time when they decided Central Trains should be split is because of poor performance. At one point trains on Shrewsbury Line ran 48% on time! Central have improved performance wise since then because of slacker timetables and splitting up routes.

The Government only cares about 2 things, PPM and Subsidy/Premiums. The government don't care whether your 96% on time but have the dirtiest trains on the network. As long as TOCs meet performance targets and make money, who cares what the passenger wants....


The Shrewsbury line still runs 48% on time. The 52% that run to time is Central Trains. The 48% that doesn't is Arriva.
 
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