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[61653 HTAFC]

Just how far away from the retail complex is the proposed White Rose station? I second your reservations about the possible demise of Cottingley for the reasons you stated.

In the planning for the new Manchester Metrolink stop at the intu Trafford Centre, it made sure that it was situated extremely near to one of the main entrances to the complex buildings there, for obvious reasons.

Far enough away that other members keep telling me it's as much to serve the offices between the Mall and the M621, rather than the mall itself: in which case they shouldn't be calling it White Rose Centre.

Given that Leeds city centre is a far greater retail draw than the White Elephant Centre can ever dream of being, I'd rather Leeds City Council would heed the mistakes of their neighbour to the south and not starve their city centre of investment in order to subsidise a frankly rather rubbish out-of-town mall. At least Meadowhall is a decent shopping centre unlike WRC. If a meteorite dropped on the WRC overnight I'd be popping the champagne.

 

[InOban]

Has there been any further information forthcoming, from either official or other sources?

There have been pics both on the ScotRail Twitter and in the local paper, showing the station platform signs and an apparently complete car park. No formal date yet.

 

[alistairlees]

According to the ScotRail website it’s in the middle of the North Sea. Passengers will probably need umbrellas.

(images show ScotRail website with map location of Kintore station in the middle of the North Sea.)

 

[YorksLad12]

Far enough away that other members keep telling me it's as much to serve the offices between the Mall and the M621, rather than the mall itself: in which case they shouldn't be calling it White Rose Centre.

Given that Leeds city centre is a far greater retail draw than the White Elephant Centre can ever dream of being, I'd rather Leeds City Council would heed the mistakes of their neighbour to the south and not starve their city centre of investment in order to subsidise a frankly rather rubbish out-of-town mall. At least Meadowhall is a decent shopping centre unlike WRC. If a meteorite dropped on the WRC overnight I'd be popping the champagne.

My remember-ance was that it was to be called White Rose, and that the office park was indeed the chief market. Easier to get people out of their cars for the drive to work than to the shopping centre. Wherever they build it is going to involve a long walk for some people!

 

[61653 HTAFC]

My remember-ance was that it was to be called White Rose, and that the office park was indeed the chief market. Easier to get people out of their cars for the drive to work than to the shopping centre. Wherever they build it is going to involve a long walk for some people!

Therein lies the problem: can you imagine how much of a let-down Meadowhall Interchange would have been if it had been built 300 yards further down the line towards Sheffield?
If it's a station for the office park, it should be called something like "Beeston Office Park" or similar... or even just stick with the Cottingley name, it'll save having to update all the PIS and ticket machines at least!

Calling it White Rose Centre station when it's a fair walk (and presumably in the open unlike Meadowhall) to the shopping centre will just smack of false advertising. Anecdotally, people avoid using the bus to White Rose because you have to walk through Debenhams... yet Leeds City Council think that crowds of shoppers will schlepp across an industrial estate and acres of car parks from a station, and still have Debenhams as the nearest entrance?

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

My remember-ance was that it was to be called White Rose, and that the office park was indeed the chief market. Easier to get people out of their cars for the drive to work than to the shopping centre. Wherever they build it is going to involve a long walk for some people!

I wonder if that last point that you make has ever entered the heads of those charged with the siting of this proposed railway station?

 

[61653 HTAFC]

I wonder if that last point that you make has ever entered the heads of those charged with the siting of this proposed railway station?

Speaking with my cynical hat on, I think the only thing in their heads is "We've got all this trolleybus money... quick, find something to spend it on before the DfT changes their minds!"

 

[YorksLad12]

Therein lies the problem: can you imagine how much of a let-down Meadowhall Interchange would have been if it had been built 300 yards further down the line towards Sheffield?
If it's a station for the office park, it should be called something like "Beeston Office Park" or similar... or even just stick with the Cottingley name, it'll save having to update all the PIS and ticket machines at least!

Calling it White Rose Centre station when it's a fair walk (and presumably in the open unlike Meadowhall) to the shopping centre will just smack of false advertising. Anecdotally, people avoid using the bus to White Rose because you have to walk through Debenhams... yet Leeds City Council think that crowds of shoppers will schlepp across an industrial estate and acres of car parks from a station, and still have Debenhams as the nearest entrance?

Systime. It should be called Systime (yes, I'm old enough to remember them on that site...) The bus station was supposed to be where the coach park is, but that then adds delays to services as they navigate the perimeter roads. It's a nuisance for me as I mostly go there to go to Sainsbury's at the other end, and services don't run through the site any more. But we're drifting off topic...

I wonder if that last point that you make has ever entered the heads of those charged with the siting of this proposed railway station?

Wikipedia puts it right behind the office park. I could see it being used, once people start going back into offices... around the time the station would be built, ironically.

Speaking with my cynical hat on, I think the only thing in their heads is "We've got all this trolleybus money... quick, find something to spend it on before the DfT changes their minds!"

Agreed, but it's not the worst thing they could have spent the money on. The money was time-limited, so relatively quick wins ("Connecting Leeds") and feasibility studies into stations and suchlike.

 

[och aye]

Hopefully the correct forum/thread.

Nice video of the envisaged infrastructure at the planned re-opened Reston station.

Scotlands Railway- Scotlands Railway

scotlandsrailway.com

Excellent news. I see there's an online consultation session on Monday, you can sign up to.

Hopefully a similar page for East Linton appears soon.

I wonder if scotlandsrailway.com is going to be the main central website that the ScotRail Alliance/Transport Scotland will be using for news, consultation, development updates etc.

 

[telstarbox]

How about Beam Park in east London?

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

How about Beam Park in east London?

Is that the one schedued to open in May 2022?

 

[telstarbox]

I doubt that will ever be built and same goes for Manston to reopen as an airport

Planning permission has now been granted, but no firm dates yet.

New railway station approved

Controversial plans to create a multi-million pound train station in east Kent have been approved.

www.kentonline.co.uk

 

[Mojo]

How about Beam Park in east London?

What a daft name.

 

[RSimons]

What a daft name.

Beam, usually called whitebeam, is a kind of small tree.

 

[telstarbox]

It's next to the river of the same name so it makes sense to me!

 

[InOban]

Kintore station set for opening

Services will begin stopping at the new station from Thursday, October 15.

www.grampianonline.co.uk

Opens Thursday 15th October

 

[andreading]

Reading Green Park is now out of the ground with completion in the summer of 2021 being given out by the Thames Valley Berkshire Local Enterprise Partnership.

 

[Phillipimo]

Kintore station is open! The 6:36 HST to Inverness was the first departure this morning.

https://twitter.com/northsoundnews/status/1316616559973015552

For the first time in 56 years, Kintore train station is back in service.

Our Reporter @LewisMichie0 was there to see the 6:36am train come in, he’s got more for us..

MORE: http://bit.ly/NorthsoundNews

 

[Ianno87]

Kintore station is open! The 6:36 HST to Inverness was the first departure this morning.

https://twitter.com/northsoundnews/status/1316616559973015552

That must be a Trivia thread - stations whose first service was an HST!

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

The Kintore station entry on the second posting on the thread has now been updated.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Hopefully Bow Street will come to fruition too, but I suspect after 2020.

As we are near to the end of October, has anyone any updated news on the opening of this new station, which is situated further south than the original now-closed station?

 

[och aye]

Kintore station is open! The 6:36 HST to Inverness was the first departure this morning.

https://twitter.com/northsoundnews/status/1316616559973015552

Welcome back Kintore

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Reading Green Park is now out of the ground with completion in the summer of 2021 being given out by the Thames Valley Berkshire Local Enterprise Partnership.

The second posting on the thread has now been amended to a 2021 opening.

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[kevin_roche]

Reading Green Park is now out of the ground with completion in the summer of 2021 being given out by the Thames Valley Berkshire Local Enterprise Partnership.

There was a short item on the BBC Local TV news tonight saying it will be complete in Summer 2021. It said the station should have been open this month but was delayed due to Covid-19. First passengers are due in 12 months time.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000pnl1/south-today-evening-news-18112020 At about 9:27

Apparently needs a while to be commissioned.

 

[Logan Carroll]

I read in Modern Railways Ilustrated about a possible station at Faslane.

Does anyone have any information about this?

 

[Voyager lad]

I read in Modern Railways Ilustrated about a possible station at Faslane.

Does anyone have any information about this?

I personally can’t see it happening, as it’s within walking distance of the existing Garelochhead. There is also a regular bus connection from Faslane and the surrounding villages into both Helensburgh and Garelochhead so it would seem unnecessary to build a new station.

 

[InOban]

Do you realise how many people work at Faslane and are bused in from Glasgow every day ? Certainly over 1000.

 

[Ianno87]

I personally can’t see it happening, as it’s within walking distance of the existing Garelochhead. There is also a regular bus connection from Faslane and the surrounding villages into both Helensburgh and Garelochhead so it would seem unnecessary to build a new station.

Do you realise how many people work at Faslane and are bused in from Glasgow every day ? Certainly over 1000.

Looking at a map (but not really knowing the area), does strike me as a case where a better sited station will capture more demand; seems odd to have a railway passing so close but such reliance on buses.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Looking at a map (but not really knowing the area), does strike me as a case where a better sited station will capture more demand; seems odd to have a railway passing so close but such reliance on buses.

Not having much knowledge of the area in question, do the people who use the said buses get on at a series of different bus stops which would not help in such a situation?