Northern 323s refurbishment and cascade

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  1. capital12

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    Those LCD screens are truly awful, well at least the programming of them anyway.

    As all TOCs who have them seem to have the same awful style, I can only assume you can’t do much else with them.
     
  2. sd0733

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    The seats are the originals just with new cushions and repainted, they certainly arent ironing board seats.
     
  3. py_megapixel

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    It just seems an awful waste, given all the extra information you could display, other than just text.
     
  4. js1000

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    Shame about those horrid and completely unnecessary yellow handles which actually reduce the clear door width for alighting/boarding. More worryingly the ends don't appear to have been 'terminated' to reduce the likelihood of passengers' bags or roller suitcases getting caught on those - they would seem a trip hazard from looking at that photo.

    Although some passengers on Twitter thought it was a new train so the spruce up clearly works on some.
     
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    The handrails are a necessity for PRM.
     
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    Corrected - thank you! The colour of the seat backs must have thrown me off...
     
  7. js1000

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    The ends are not terminated to reduce risk of catching bags/luggage on them.
     
  8. py_megapixel

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    Having travelled on 323234 for the first time a few days ago, I'm very impressed with the standard of this refurb, especially compared to what they've done with the BREL stock. A few notes:
    • They still retain their original door controls, despite them being battered and warn out.
    • The seat bases aren't actually plain blue; they do have the light blue dots on them.
    • They've fitted a far better PRM toilet than in the other units - it's more spacious and all buttons are clearly labelled with what they do.
    • TrainFX wasn't working. (Or rather, it just said "journey" on the screens for a few minutes, then went blank; the very helpful guard told me that they had been switched off by the driver, probably meaning that it was broken in some way).
    • Apart from next to the toilet, the original lights are retained, and as far as I can tell they're still florescent tubes.
    • Everything has been repainted, inside and out. But the white paint still appears slightly yellow because of the fluorescent lights.
    • They still seem to run like the same trains. (Although they have fixed the grinding noise that the doors made!)
    Overall, I really like it. I hope these trains are in service for a good while.
     
  9. Chris125

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    Replacement lighting wasn't ready for the first two refurbs according to Tony Miles, they'll get it later.
     
  10. prod_pep

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    Managed my first ride on 323234 since its refurb this afternoon. The PIS system was operational and I'm afraid the audio announcements have the same muffled and distorted quality as the WM units, and the LCD displays are amateurish. The PIS system fitted to these units really is embarrassing. Already the moquette has started to fade and a couple of seat bases have come loose.

    Also, the seat layout has changed as per the WM refurbished 323s, with more airline 2+2 seats than before, a change I'm not a fan of.

    It looks reasonably nice on the whole though and I imagine the new lighting will make a big difference for the better once it is finally fitted. It was still a country mile better than the 319 I had on the outward journey.

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  11. childwallblues

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    It was on the 1400 LIV-WBQ this afternoon.
     
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    The new buttons are on order, but aren't available for the first couple of units, 234 will go back eventually for retrofitting.
     

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