Northern 333 refurbishments

[43367]

Just to confirm 333012 was sandwiched between 2x 37's for its journey from Holbeck to Neville hill on Saturday morning, not sure which 333, if any, has replaced it

 

[Dave91131]

Which 333 went to Holbeck today?

333014 was dragged to Holbeck today, top and tailed by 37608 and 37xxx - seen in Leeds station but unable to ID the rear 37 due to rushing to get on 144003 to Woodlesford for winning 'new recruit' 150105 back (desperate I know).

If anybody can ID the other 37 it would be appreciated.

 

[43096]

333014 was dragged to Holbeck today, top and tailed by 37608 and 37xxx - seen in Leeds station but unable to ID the rear 37 due to rushing to get on 144003 to Woodlesford for winning 'new recruit' 150105 back (desperate I know).

If anybody can ID the other 37 it would be appreciated.

37608/884 reported elsewhere as the two locos involved.

 

[Harvey B]

333014 was dragged to Holbeck today

thanks alot

 

[Harvey B]

Unrelated question:
If this rumour from ages ago about the 333s moving on to doncaster services is true, will it affect the 333s on the triangle services?
(Thought I'd post it here because the Furture of the class 333 thread hasn't been active for over a year)

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Unrelated question:
If this rumour from ages ago about the 333s moving on to doncaster services is true, will it affect the 333s on the triangle services?
(Thought I'd post it here because the Furture of the class 333 thread hasn't been active for over a year)

Once 333s go on Doncasters there'll be fewer of them on the triangle, but they'll still be the majority of services. With Leeds now getting 4-car 331s instead of 3, they may be simply swapped directly into the 321/322 diagrams which would see them mostly working Doncasters.

 

[Harvey B]

Once 333s go on Doncasters there'll be fewer of them on the triangle, but they'll still be the majority of services. With Leeds now getting 4-car 331s instead of 3, they may be simply swapped directly into the 321/322 diagrams which would see them mostly working Doncasters.

Thats good news, at least they would stay on Triangle services, should they go on Doncaster services, I'm probably thinking that the 331s will be the main traction on Doncaster services but at least 1 333 diagram per day on Doncaster services would be good (I would think that they would likely be operated by Leeds based crews and not the crews at Donny if that's the case)

 

[Neptune]

No plans at all for 333’s on the Doncaster route. They only appear on the route during 32x shortages and only then if there are enough spare to cover.

 

[Harvey B]

No plans at all for 333’s on the Doncaster route. They only appear on the route during 32x shortages and only then if there are enough spare to cover.

Firstly, it's theoretical
Secondly, it would be when the 331s are introduced

 

[Kite159]

I'm surprised the door release buzzer sounders haven't been made louder during the refurbishment as they are quite low (if that makes sense).

Having travelled on a couple of the refurb sets yesterday, it's a good job as the seats were looking a bit well worm on some of the units, although legroom in some seats is very poor.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Thats good news, at least they would stay on Triangle services, should they go on Doncaster services, I'm probably thinking that the 331s will be the main traction on Doncaster services but at least 1 333 diagram per day on Doncaster services would be good (I would think that they would likely be operated by Leeds based crews and not the crews at Donny if that's the case)

That was always going to be the case: there are 16 333s and the Doncaster service needs 3 units.

 

[Harvey B]

That was always going to be the case: there are 16 333s and the Doncaster service needs 3 units.

They can run Doncaster services (I've seen plenty of videos on YouTube) but to me it doesn't make sense why they have the Doncaster stops in their system and yet they rarely run on that service. BTW is there a peak diagram that runs on Doncaster services

 

[61653 HTAFC]

They can run Doncaster services (I've seen plenty of videos on YouTube) but to me it doesn't make sense why they have the Doncaster stops in their system and yet they rarely run on that service. BTW is there a peak diagram that runs on Doncaster services

Yes I know.

I was explaining to you that them moving onto Doncaster services (that might not be happening as regularly as originally planned, due to the Airedale platform extensions not happening in time) wouldn't mean that they'd no longer run triangle services, because there are 16 units and Doncaster only needs three of them. I think the peak extra Doncaster is still run with a 170, it was before the timetable change.

And for now at least, there aren't any other services run by EMUs in Yorkshire.

 

[northernchris]

Yes I know.

I was explaining to you that them moving onto Doncaster services (that might not be happening as regularly as originally planned, due to the Airedale platform extensions not happening in time) wouldn't mean that they'd no longer run triangle services, because there are 16 units and Doncaster only needs three of them. I think the peak extra Doncaster is still run with a 170, it was before the timetable change.

And for now at least, there aren't any other services run by EMUs in Yorkshire.

The peak Doncaster is now back to a 321/2. I can't remember the last time I saw on a 333 on the Doncaster route!

 

[George Buckley]

On the refurbished 333’s they have put a route map of the Wharfedale/Airedale triangle above the door, this does not include Doncaster, with suggests they don’t have any intentions to run them to Doncaster.

 

[xotGD]

On the refurbished 333’s they have put a route map of the Wharfedale/Airedale triangle above the door, this does not include Doncaster, with suggests they don’t have any intentions to run them to Doncaster.

Certainly not until the 6-car 331s arrive.

 

[Ianigsy]

333012 has been released into the wild - currently on 1702 Leeds-Ilkley.

 

[Tracked]

On the refurbished 333’s they have put a route map of the Wharfedale/Airedale triangle above the door, this does not include Doncaster, with suggests they don’t have any intentions to run them to Doncaster.

Is this something that'd be really hard to change if they do start running them to Doncaster?

 

[xotGD]

333012 has been released into the wild - currently on 1702 Leeds-Ilkley.

I think I'd describe Ilkley as 'sedate' rather than 'wild'.

 

[Ianigsy]

I think I'd describe Ilkley as 'sedate' rather than 'wild'.

Try being there when Betty's run out of scones......

 

[Harvey B]

333014 has moved back to Neville Hill today:
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K00058/2019/06/22/advanced
With the return here:
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K00595/2019/06/22/advanced
Anyone know which unit went to Holbeck?

 

[AmateurRambler]

333014 has moved back to Neville Hill today:
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K00058/2019/06/22/advanced
With the return here:
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K00595/2019/06/22/advanced
Anyone know which unit went to Holbeck?

333010.

 

[Harvey B]

333010.

Thanks

 

[johntea]

Was just on a non refurbished one...not sure of the exact unit but apparently the next station was Krikstall Forge

 

[Harvey B]

Was just on a non refurbished one...not sure of the exact unit but apparently the next station was Krikstall Forge

Someone else mentioned this on the general Northern units refurbishments thread too.
Hopefully this is repaired when it gets taken in for a refurb. I'll report back if I experience it happening when I go to Bradford to see Les Miserables next month

 

[Bantamzen]

Was just on a non refurbished one...not sure of the exact unit but apparently the next station was Krikstall Forge

I'm on one now and Kirkstall is spelt correctly, so it must just be a typo on some.

 

[Harvey B]

When is 333010 due to go back to Neville Hill?

 

[Tracked]

There was a 333 on the 08:21 Leeds to Doncaster (2B97) this morning, didn't get the number, it was 20+ minutes late after being late off depot (like a lot of trains, by the look of RTT) so not sure if that led to it working that service. Didn't get the number, or whether it was a refurb'd one, as I just saw the front end from the bridge near Bentley station.

 

[AMD]

There was a 333 on the 08:21 Leeds to Doncaster (2B97) this morning

333007

 

[Harvey B]

There was a 333 on the 08:21 Leeds to Doncaster (2B97) this morning, didn't get the number, it was 20+ minutes late after being late off depot (like a lot of trains, by the look of RTT) so not sure if that led to it working that service. Didn't get the number, or whether it was a refurb'd one, as I just saw the front end from the bridge near Bentley station.

Will they be on that line more often then?