Peterthegreat
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Eight cancellations through Rotherham yesterday. Still far from acceptable.
Not so good tonight though.
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Northern cancellations creeping up again?
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Ah well. As it happens, I get in too late to use it anyway today !
Spartacus
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Shortage of Sheffield guards seems to be a particular problem at the moment for whatever reason.
Yes, it seems so. Some naughty TOC must have poached them !
Constant Northern cancellation announcements at Sheffield this afternoon, “shortage of train crew” on the Lincoln and Leeds services.
Frodingham
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Does anyone know how long 2K2O is likely to be standing at South Milford?
Daughter on the train says that it's been there half an hour with no announcement.
Daughter on the train says that it's been there half an hour with no announcement.
Spartacus
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Something blown at Selby and signalling lost, so who knows really.
150's are regulars (although they always seem to turn up when you have a takeaway and need a table
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trainophile
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What, not a short notice change to the timetable? Things are looking up.
pokemonsuper9
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Looks like an abhorrent service on the Atherton line once again tomorrow, 3 hour gap between trains.
That means
of 15 trains towards Manchester, 5 are running,
and of 14 towards Wigan (+1 RRB), 5 (+1 RRB) are running.
That means
of 15 trains towards Manchester, 5 are running,
and of 14 towards Wigan (+1 RRB), 5 (+1 RRB) are running.
Lampshade
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No direct trains between Preston and Liverpool tomorrow, all P-coded, truly pathetic operator.
Northern158170
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Sundays are always just abysmal. They can’t run even the severely reduced timetable they already offer
5 Sheffield-Manchester trains cancelled (not 2 in a row, but tomorrow we’ll see how that turns out)
1 in 2 MAN-Buxton
1 in 3 Hadfield
1 in 2 MAN-Crewe
Windermere gets 1 train all day (from Oxford Road)
And that’s just from some quick checks
5 Sheffield-Manchester trains cancelled (not 2 in a row, but tomorrow we’ll see how that turns out)
1 in 2 MAN-Buxton
1 in 3 Hadfield
1 in 2 MAN-Crewe
Windermere gets 1 train all day (from Oxford Road)
And that’s just from some quick checks
317 forever
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Yesterday my 22.06 from Manchester Piccadilly home to Heaton Chapel and onto Crewe was cancelled.
It was even missing from the Live Departures page on the Network Rail website around 21.40. However, when I did a simulated ticket purchase it did display the train as cancelled.
The 23.01 to Alderley Edge was quite busy. My heart goes out to people who needed intermediate stations further on before Crewe. I don't know whether there was a train to those stations via Manchester Airport at least.
It was even missing from the Live Departures page on the Network Rail website around 21.40. However, when I did a simulated ticket purchase it did display the train as cancelled.
The 23.01 to Alderley Edge was quite busy. My heart goes out to people who needed intermediate stations further on before Crewe. I don't know whether there was a train to those stations via Manchester Airport at least.
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Think the 2336 Manchester Piccadilly -> Crewe (via Stockport) did run yesterday and so would have called at Chelford and Goostrey.
The last train via Manchester Airport that serves beyond Wilmslow leaves Manchester Piccadilly at 1836.
317 forever
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While of course better than being cancelled, it would still have delayed intending passengers by around 90 minutes.
Mcr Warrior
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Less than ideal, but 'Delay Repay' for anyone so affected.
HaxbyTraveller
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Maybe they could ask for volunteers on the train
Not a cancellation as such - more an illustration of the crumbling edge of quality, however last year I posted the thread below about an incident when the main line to Wakefield Westgate was closed due to engineering works, resulting in the last Hallam line train being grosely overcrowded and heavily delayed (eventually an additional unit was summonned).
www.railforums.co.uk
Fast forward to yesterday, and the mainline was again closed. Surprise Surprise (It's not Cilla'ere) exactly the same situation with several carriages worth of Wakefield passengers trying to pile on to the last Hallam train. The train was again over twenty minutes late leaving as they tried to squeeze everyone onto two carriages. When it did eventually leave, it was I would say dangerously overcrowded - not having much to hold onto I lost my footing at one point, and almost ended up accidentally elbowing one poor gent in the face (fortunately he moved out the way).
Wouldn't you have thought they'd have learned from last year !
Fiasco in Leeds (27/01)
Was aiming to get my usual train back to Normy this evening. Arrived in Leeds to find the train full and standing, to the extent that no one could physically get on. When I enquired as to why this situation ensued, I was told it was because the Wakefield Westgate line was closed and people...
www.railforums.co.uk
Fast forward to yesterday, and the mainline was again closed. Surprise Surprise (It's not Cilla'ere) exactly the same situation with several carriages worth of Wakefield passengers trying to pile on to the last Hallam train. The train was again over twenty minutes late leaving as they tried to squeeze everyone onto two carriages. When it did eventually leave, it was I would say dangerously overcrowded - not having much to hold onto I lost my footing at one point, and almost ended up accidentally elbowing one poor gent in the face (fortunately he moved out the way).
Wouldn't you have thought they'd have learned from last year !
Peterthegreat
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Northern don't learn anything.Not a cancellation as such - more an illustration of the crumbling edge of quality, however last year I posted the thread below about an incident when the main line to Wakefield Westgate was closed due to engineering works, resulting in the last Hallam line train being grosely overcrowded and heavily delayed (eventually an additional unit was summonned).
Fiasco in Leeds (27/01)
Was aiming to get my usual train back to Normy this evening. Arrived in Leeds to find the train full and standing, to the extent that no one could physically get on. When I enquired as to why this situation ensued, I was told it was because the Wakefield Westgate line was closed and people...
Fast forward to yesterday, and the mainline was again closed. Surprise Surprise (It's not Cilla'ere) exactly the same situation with several carriages worth of Wakefield passengers trying to pile on to the last Hallam train. The train was again over twenty minutes late leaving as they tried to squeeze everyone onto two carriages. When it did eventually leave, it was I would say dangerously overcrowded - not having much to hold onto I lost my footing at one point, and almost ended up accidentally elbowing one poor gent in the face (fortunately he moved out the way).
Wouldn't you have thought they'd have learned from last year !
Certainly not on this occasion !
HaxbyTraveller
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People only learn if they care. My suspicion is that the rail companies highest priority is not caring for the travelling public.
Peterthegreat
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I think you're right. Some staff at all levels DO care but in many cases there seems to be a complete lack of awareness about the actual state of things on the ground.
HaxbyTraveller
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I'd like to see ministers have to travel/experience the same frustrations as ordinary people (queue for ages to get through security at the airport, wait in A&E for hours and fail to get a GP appointment for 2 weeks, and - of course - stand on a windy cold dark platform and wonder if they would get a train home that night). I'm sure it would focus minds at the top (and if it didn't, it would at least give us all a laugh).
trainophile
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Were their tickets valid on the train that they shouldn't have been on?
nr758123
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But they do, even if their experience is far from representative. Only last week, the Chancellor and the Secretary of State for Transport managed to find one of Northern's Victoria-Stalybridge services which hadn't been cancelled and travel on it. They then did some sort of press briefing to re-announce the Transpennine Route Upgrade.
Well, another day, another shambles.
Checked that my train was running on the national rail app before I set off - train showing as on time.
Get to the station - all of the information screens down, ticket machine down as well (not sure if they provide live information, but would have tried).
I'm waiting there - no sign of any train. Turns out cancelled due to the usual missing member of staff.
What's particularly irritating is that I checked NRE long after the train was due to set off from Sheffield, yet it was still showing as "on time".
I've been using the Hallam line daily since 2006, and outside of the national strikes, this is the most unreliable its been.
Checked that my train was running on the national rail app before I set off - train showing as on time.
Get to the station - all of the information screens down, ticket machine down as well (not sure if they provide live information, but would have tried).
I'm waiting there - no sign of any train. Turns out cancelled due to the usual missing member of staff.
What's particularly irritating is that I checked NRE long after the train was due to set off from Sheffield, yet it was still showing as "on time".
I've been using the Hallam line daily since 2006, and outside of the national strikes, this is the most unreliable its been.
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