Originally Posted by janb
The 0917 BIF to PRE from 11th July is now in Journey Planners as being 0850 again. Anybody any info on this change?
Well spotted - thanks. I have updated Diagram 9 in Post #3 accordingly. Almost at the 11th hour, Northern has finally been allowed to substitute a 75mph Sprinter in the WCML train slots currently allocated to 185 Diagram 5 in Post #1. This resolves the issue first pointed out by robbeale in Post #25 - with the original timings, Diagram 9 was supposed to depart Preston for Windermere before it arrived from Barrow!
The 1029 Preston to Windermere (1C72) is still not showing on the journey planner for 11/7/16, and RTT gives it as 'cancelled'.
Can we presume this to be an error? Everything looks okay for 12/7/16 onwards.
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The Saturday duty changing from 185 to Sprinter after next weekend appears to be the following.
0435 BIF-LAN arr 0531
0602 LAN-WDM arr 0641
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0937 WDM-PRE arr 1039
1044 PRE-WDM arr 1137 (new arrival time 1142)
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1251 WDM-PRE arr 1352 (new arrival time 1406)
1445 PRE-WDM arr 1537 (becomes 1430 PRE-WDM, arr 1541)
1xOXN
1707 WDM-PRE arr 1804 (new arrival time 1811)
1904 PRE-BIF arr 2021 (becomes 1908 PRE-BIF, arr 2033)
Sorry, I didn't think to record reporting numbers.
The above may be a complete diagram as it runs now, or it may be an amalgam of two, since there are currently two 185s at Preston from 1352 to 1407.
The 0435 BIF-LAN is showing on RTT as 'Cancelled' for 9/7/16 and 16/7/16, but there's no mention of this on Northern's Improvement Works page, no mention of bus replacements, and no suggestion of how a Sprinter is going to get to LAN to work the 0602 LAN-WDM.
I can only find three 185s in use on Sundays on BPN/WDM/BIF and they're all involved in doubling up between MIA and PRE, so it may be that there won't be a reduction in Sunday 185 duties at this stage.
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A nice scheduling goof involving an ex-BPN journey yesterday. The 1340 ex-BPN is, on a Saturday, currently scheduled to terminate at Manchester Piccadiily and wait in the Mayfield loop until its correct return time. I don't know why this should be, there certainly don't appear to be any more trains heading for the airport at this time than on any other day.
Preston to Deansgate, via Bolton, with five intermediate stops, takes around 45 minutes, and any other day of the week this particular train would be 1405 from Preston, 1451 into Deansgate. At the moment, because of the works at Chorley, the main Blackpool service is being diverted at weekends via Chat Moss & the WCML, and the journey in question doesn't have a Wigan stop, so you'd expect a Preston to Deansgate time of no more than 40 minutes, even with 75 mph units.
In fact the scheduled time is 54 minutes. Yesterday, because the train was five minutes early at Parkside Junction, and the 1415 Liverpool to Airport a minute late, the ex-Blackpool was given priority, which, in the normal course of events, it would be scheduled to have. It arrived at Deansgate at 1456, ten minutes prior to its booked time of 1506, nicely stopping in their tracks (pun - get it?) the 1415 ex-Liverpool (due to pass Deansgate at 1457) and the 1355 ex-Liverpool via Warrington stopper, due to call at 1500.
The ex-Blackpool departed Deansgate the moment the schedule permitted, but the ex-Liverpool semi-fast finished 12L, the ex-Liverpool stopper 9L, the Scarborough 13L, and the Bolton to Hazel Grove 7L. Let's hope things get sorted before next weekend.