Bletchleyite
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It's not so much "the railways" as "Northern's management". It's yet another string to their rather worn-out bow of gross incompetence.
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Northern Class 195: Construction/Introduction Updates
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It's not so much "the railways" as "Northern's management". It's yet another string to their rather worn-out bow of gross incompetence.
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Normal working hours on the railway means you are either driving a service or sat spare. In order to learn new traction the TOC has to amend the rota in order to free up drivers to learn OR get them to learn on a rest day - the latter is often where money comes in as the TOC is making them work a day off.
mikemcniven
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5J55 ran this morning, Edge Hill to Newton Heath TMD (reported as 195001)
Philip
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Does anyone have an updated list of which units have been delivered?
Whattraintoday
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So this is due to another miss-step by ARN regarding rest day working?
Or have I misunderstood?
Just remember the chaos in April and May when they had the train up drivers on 158s and 319s.
Philip
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Thank you
Traction training is done in parts, 'static' which is classroom based learning the technical details/layout/fault finding etc & an actual walk round the new units, this can't be done when they are in service.
The 2nd part is the 'handling' part, basically learning to drive the thing.
Once the initial batch of trainers and Drivers have done this part, then this can be done with the trains in service.
DJH1971
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Seen both 195107 and 195109 together at Lime Street this morning
Must be undertaking multiple working tests.
Must be undertaking multiple working tests.
superkev
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Can someone refresh my memory as to which depots and routes the new trains are to go to.
Also aren't new facilities being built at Newton Heath and possibly other depots. Are these complete.
K
Also aren't new facilities being built at Newton Heath and possibly other depots. Are these complete.
K
Allerton: 15x 331/0s and 12x 331/1s.
Neville Hill: 16x 331/0s.
Newton Heath: 195s (all of them IIRC).
chrissawer
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Two coach 195 sat outside at Newton Heath this morning. Didn't manage to see the number I'm afraid.
Liverpool 507
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195001 is at Newton Heath
195103 & 195105 are at Allerton
195103 & 195105 are at Allerton
LNW-GW Joint
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At least 4 Civitys parked up at Edge Hill today.
td97
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Are they usually out mainline testing?
LNW-GW Joint
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Some of them, some of the time.
Difficult to know what is going on, really.
Northern aren't naming them after Zodiac signs are they?
samuelmorris
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They might have trouble finding 58 different signs of the zodiac!
Built in shower facilities by any chance??
It could be a hint as to when it's entering service.
Aquarius will work well in multiple with Virgo but join Aquarius up with Libra and things will run less smoothly.
LNW-GW Joint
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I could understand the TPE "Nova" rolling stock having cosmic names, to match the livery.Aquarius will work well in multiple with Virgo but join Aquarius up with Libra and things will run less smoothly.
But Northern doesn't seem to have a naming convention, beyond occasional random names and places linked to the north.
There are 12 TPE 397s, so they would fit the astrological zodiac names (although proper astronomers would have 13 with some naming variants).
That's right.
Knew it... how bad is it??
LOL The Irony
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They're leaking in the rain?
By the sounds of it...
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