Is daft I agree, but a pendo and voyager can couple mechanically. However you need a degree and patience of many saints to do it. And ideally a quiet railway (!) .Maybe it's time for NR to bite the bullet and insist on the same couplers for all stock.
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Is daft I agree, but a pendo and voyager can couple mechanically. However you need a degree and patience of many saints to do it. And ideally a quiet railway (!) .Maybe it's time for NR to bite the bullet and insist on the same couplers for all stock.
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anamyd
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the factory won't have much to do on it then!
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I'm guessing it's just to show them what a finished set should look like. So expect the Welsh units to also have interior water features. Damn, I want an interior water feature on my train now.
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Good point. So they have something to work to. A shame that means that the completed unit has leaks, so all the ones they build have to have leaks as well
Video on YouTube of a Voyager dragging a Pendelino through Crewe Station!
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So is the idea for the rest of the order that body-shells will be shipped to Newport for finishing there?
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I believe so.
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Good point. So they have something to work to. A shame that means that the completed unit has leaks, so all the ones they build have to have leaks as well
I wonder if it was something that got lost in translation, they heard the national emblem of Wales was a leek and so......
krus_aragon
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Which is in itself a translation mistake (apparently). A daffodil is known as a Cennin Pedr, or a St Peter's Leek, in Welsh. It's believed that a mention of wearing such a cenhinen may have been translated without the context that it was a flower, and thus the leek became associated with the Welsh.I wonder if it was something that got lost in translation, they heard the national emblem of Wales was a leek and so......
(Seriously: a leek is a bit big to wear on your jacket!)
davyp
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Max Boyce used to wear a leek, and carry around a huge leek as well!
krus_aragon
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Yes, typically with a rosette large enough for the Monster Raving Loony Party. I think he was doing it for comedic reasons.
Though (in struggling to get back on topic) you might be able to use one in a washer plant at the CAF factory....
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I wonder if it was something that got lost in translation, they heard the national emblem of Wales was a leek and so......
samuelmorris
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Eversholt, according to https://www.railjournal.com/rolling-stock/caf-presents-first-civity-emu-for-northern/
mikemcniven
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195107 transferred from Blackpool to Newton Heath TMD today to allow training to commence there
I caught up with it at Salford Central after it ran on 5Z20 via Bolton
Northern 195107 by Mike McNiven, on Flickr
Northern 150107 by Mike McNiven, on Flickr
I caught up with it at Salford Central after it ran on 5Z20 via Bolton
Northern 195107 by Mike McNiven, on Flickr
Northern 150107 by Mike McNiven, on Flickr
Bletchleyite
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Those are very attractive-looking units. Very European in appearance.
samuelmorris
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I'm generally impressed with the look of all the CAF units in the UK so far - the 332/333s were certainly well ahead of their time as far as appearance is concerned and the TPE fleets look stunning. The acid test will be the 196s, there is almost no gangwayed stock that's very visually appealing to most people, so will been keen to see how they fare there.
Bletchleyite
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I think the 350s, particularly in the LM livery, do look attractive.
Bletchleyite
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Just less bad...
I can understand the utility but compared to how good new non gangwayed stock look they do all look horrible. At 100mph the aerodynamics must be quite horrendous also.
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They are attractive enough that they were a core part of LM's overall visual marketing approach.
superkev
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How goes the acceptance of Northerns new trains for training by ASLEF. No news usually means all's not well.
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Very disappointing. Is this not the 2nd attempt to agree a training programme/package?
Bletchleyite
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Are Northern capable of doing anything that is acceptable to the unions?
superkev
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Bearing in mind the timescale of RMTs current dispute they could be parked in a siding for a while then and we have to put up with those 4 wheeled things.
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Well let's look at that.
How many new types of train have been brought into service In the last 25 years? Lots
How many times have ASLEF been party to the training package arranged with the TOC? All of them AFAIK.
How many of these fleets never entered service because of the Union refusing to train the unit. None?
So ask yourself the question, why does this keep happening? If the union is doing the same at Northern as it does everywhere else? (My union branch covers VT, Northern, TPE and even GBRf, so it's definitely not just a local level problem)
You should find the answer from what has just been eliminated..
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