Northern Class 195: Construction/Introduction Updates

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  1. Red Devil

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    Same agreement. Diesels first as they're most needed, particularly on Barrow route.
     
  2. Red Devil

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    Same agreement. Diesels first as they're most needed for the Barrow route in particular
     
  3. Mathew S

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    Excellent news the training has started.

    So, to check I've got this right. The current plan is to introduce the 195s on the Barrow - Man Airport services which will run hourly via Wigan from May?
     
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    Driver Instructor training starts Wednesday at Allerton with a Big Bang of courses planned at 3 per week running simultaniously at Allerton,Blackpool N and Leyland once the pool of instructors are trained.

    The course is 7 days on the diesel with a further 2 day conversion to the 331 planned in the future.

    331’s however are now most likely to appear in the East first on Doncaster-Leeds services once introduced.
     
  5. absolutelymilk

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    Does that mean there are likely to be 195 services at the end of next week or sometime soon after?
     
  6. Llama

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    No, it will be many weeks yet before any are in passenger service.
     
  7. Mathew S

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    Have they even notched up the required fault-free-running and been cleared to enter passenger service by the various regulators yet?
     
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    That makes a lot of sense regarding the 331s as Leeds is short of EMUs
     
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    Edit: Oops, sorry I'd posted a response to a earlier post about 331s & then realised we are in the 195 thread.

    Mods: Please delete, thanks.
     
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    I am not sure how to interpret this tweet from the inspector of railways from last December.
    It says 195s have been accepted, but is that accpted for fare paying passengers or not I don't know
    https://twitter.com/IanProsser7/status/1073646524993814529?s=20
     
  11. Mathew S

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    What a delightfully vague tweet - yeah, I'm none the wiser after reading that either :lol:
     
  12. Bantamzen

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    That is Civil Service Speak for "We've accepted it, but I have to justify budgets for the hoards of middle managers so we'll find lots of little issues that will not affect passengers not one jot, but we'll still nitpick about them so that we can schedule another few months of telekits & meetings to make it look like we are actually doing anything..."

    I've been in the public sector too long...… ;)
     
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    In short - no they haven't done the fault free milage.
     
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    How can Leeds be short of EMUS when it got the five 322s?
     
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    Is that because of a lack of drivers or surplus of faults ?
     
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    They are quite intensively worked and there's a 333 refurbishment project ongoing so it's fairly routine for there to be DMU substitutions on any of the Doncaster/Ilkley or Skipton routes at the moment.
     
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    There is actually at least one morning diagram in for a 3 car 144, working ECS to Bradford Forster Square then to & from Skipton & back to Leeds I believe. Plus with the 321/322s in an ever worsening state, and as you say the 333s going into refurbishment (there are currently 2 done but not yet back in service), it won't take too much to need more DMU cover until the 331s start to land.
     
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    There have been a few faults.
     
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    That 3 car 144 could be use elsewhere too to boost capacity. So if a 4 car 331 replaced it you could have 3 services strengthened. of course the pacers are going to vanish at some point so maybe not!
     
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    20190222_133940.jpg 195112 at Warrington Bank Quay earlier
     
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    How is instructor training progressing?
     
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    For some reason I didn't really notice until seeing this photo, but you can see the Spanish (sorry, Basque ;) ) influence in the front-end design.
     
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    Saw one roll through preston the other morning. Very nice looking trains
     
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    I don't see it. They need the cowl on the front and the little griles for the horns back.
     
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    Got to say that people will be impressed with the layout inside these units. Had a good nosey at the inside of one that passed my unit, and there are a lot of table seats in them. Very much reminded me of when the 156s were first done up internally for Regional Rail Man Airport Services. I just hope Northern (and the public themselves ) look after these units inside. They're a world apart from a 150.
     
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    I agree,they looked quite smart inside.
    This has been back and forth at Warrington Bank Quay today doing Preston to Edge Hill runs.
     
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    Here's another picture the second time it came in via the up goods loop
    20190222_143104.jpg
     
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    195110 and 111 are at Allerton.
    There is a third one but I couldn't see it because it was too dark lol.
     
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    Have you watched the onboard video of 195-103...? It has prominent panel rattling issues similar to 172s
     

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