I think it's worth remembering with this that the northern service was supposed to make up for the loss of the transpennine (6 carriages of 185). Warrington line passengers, and Liverpool passengers generally, are really being screwed and receiving services well below what they merit (that goes for both TPE and Northern).
Just wait until the East Midlands service is got rid of, and these two are all you're left with.
Just wait until the East Midlands service is got rid of, and these two are all you're left with.