Northern Class 331: Initial diagrams

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  1. ainsworth74

    ainsworth74 Forum Staff Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Below can be found the current (31/07/2019) diagrams for Northern 331s. Attempts will be made to keep this list up to date as more diagrams convert. As always information is provided as is and subject to change due to operation constraints or honest mistakes!

    Leeds - Doncaster

    Diagram One:

    2B03 0625 Leeds - Doncaster 0709
    2B56 0728 Doncaster - Leeds 0811
    2B07 0822 Leeds - Doncaster 0906
    2B62 0926 Doncaster - Leeds 1010
    2B11 1021 Leeds - Doncaster 1106
    2B66 1126 Doncaster - Leeds 1210
    2B15 1221 Leeds - Doncaster 1306
    2B70 1325 Doncaster - Leeds 1410
    2B19 1421 Leeds - Doncaster 1506
    2B74 1526 Doncaster - Leeds 1610
    2B23 1621 Leeds - Doncaster 1705
    2B78 1726 Doncaster - Leeds 1811
    2B29 1822 Leeds - Doncaster 1906
    2B82 1928 Doncaster - Leeds 2012
    2B33 2022 Leeds - Doncaster 2106
    2B86 2128 Doncaster - Leeds 2210
    2B37 2222 Leeds - Doncaster 2306

    Diagram Two:

    2B53 0631 Doncaster - Leeds 0714
    2B05 0722 Leeds - Doncaster 0806
    2B60 0826 Doncaster - Leeds 0911
    2B09 0921 Leeds - Doncaster 1006
    2B64 1026 Doncaster - Leeds 1110
    2B13 1121 Leeds - Doncaster 1206
    2B68 1226 Doncaster - Leeds 1310
    2B17 1321 Leeds - Doncaster 1406
    2B72 1426 Doncaster - Leeds 1510
    2B21 1521 Leeds - Doncaster 1606
    2B76 1626 Doncaster - Leeds 1711
    2B25 1722 Leeds - Doncaster 1806
    2B80 1828 Doncaster - Leeds 1911
    2B31 1922 Leeds - Doncaster 2006
    2B84 2028 Doncaster - Leeds 2111
    2B35 2122 Leeds - Doncaster 2206
    2B88 2232 Doncaster - Leeds 2316

    Peak Only Services

    2B54 0654 Doncaster - Leeds 0739

    2B27 1757 Leeds - Doncaster 1842
     
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  3. ForTheLoveOf

    ForTheLoveOf Established Member

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    Apologies if this has been stated elsewhere, but is there a planned introduction date for these diagrams?
     
  4. Darandio

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    Supposed to be next Monday.
     
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    Crew training and eventually additional diagrams.
     
  7. superalbs

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    321 on diagram 1.
    331106 on diagram 2.
     
  8. xotGD

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    106 just arriving at Leeds now.

    105 stabled just north of Wakefield Westgate.

    Unidentified 331 on 2B54 (06:54 off Doncaster)
     
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    Unidentified one is 110 I think, named Proud to be Northern, like some of the others.
     
  10. darloscott

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    Had a feeling it would be the peak & Doncaster based diagram as the posted Leeds one has another trip on the end to Donny normally
     
  11. Railperf

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    Are these diagrams working today as planned?
     
  12. ainsworth74

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    Diagram two seems to be but diagram one appears to be a 32x. Unless anyone has better info on the ground!
     
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    As mentioned up-thread, the 06:25 Leeds-Doncaster was a 321/322, I saw it briefly as my service from Guiseley was pulling in. Not sure about later services, but I'd imagine it will be the same unit?
     
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    Believe the other is on the 0651 Don-Lds and 1757 Lds-Don as I expected it might be, anyone confirm? Diagram one (above) should go back to Doncaster on the end so unless they've stuck that one something else (RTT doesn't suggest so) then I think that precludes it from 331 operation for now given it's tied into other diagrams
     
  15. DanNCL

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    Only diagram 2 is being worked by a 331 today - 331106. Diagram 1 is being covered by 321902
     
  16. xotGD

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    Plus a 331 on the "Third Diagram", as reported up-thread.
     
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    So two 331s have entered service today? But not on the exact Diagrams listed by the OP?
     
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    Any more news on North West diagrams yet?
     
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    Looks to be that way. The peak extra diagram seems to have gone over instead of the all day diagram somewhat unexpectedly! It'll be interesting to see how this develops whether it's today only or if it's all week.
     
  20. theblackwatch

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    331110 confirmed as being on the 17.57 peak extra. (I am currently sat on it at platform 12C at Leeds.)
     
  21. 61653 HTAFC

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    Just alighted from 331106 at South Elmsall which was the 1722 which is part of diagram 2 listed above. I'll not review the unit here, but it is notable that at South Elmsall southbound the rear set of doors only just fits on the usable part of the platform. Imagine that will keep drivers on their toes come autumn!
     
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    Did the back set of doors actually release for passenger use as the ASDO should stop them releasing at Elmsall
     
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    I didn't see as I was in the front carriage. From what you say it's fair to assume they didn't open. There were two crew members both at the rear set of doors on the third carriage, one of whom was presumably the guard.

    As an aside, given the number of units bearing the "Proud to be Northern" branding I don't think it can be considered a "naming" in any sense. The branding just happens to resemble a nameplate. If that's a name then an awful lot of locomotives were "named" Railfreight in the 1980s!
     
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    Ignore my earlier posts... was getting my diagrams mixed up

    It's Diagram 2 that should have an extra trip on the end... it operates 2B39 2331 Leeds to Doncaster (arr 0016) to finish hence balancing with the peak extra one... which is...
    2B54 0654 Doncaster-Leeds 0740
    5B54 0746 Leeds-Neville Hill Depot 0756
    5B27 1718 Neville Hill Depot-Leeds 1734
    2B27 1757 Leeds-Doncaster 1842
     
  25. Bantamzen

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    From what I could tell this morning, the 06:25 Leeds-Doncaster was still running as a 321/322, albeit still stuck in Leeds due to some delay (eventually left 10 late according to RTT). Is the other diagram starting from Doncaster a 331 again today does anyone know?

    Interestingly the 331 introduction yesterday seems to have displaced another 3221/322 to the Aire / Wharfe triangle. I wonder if these diagrams that now seem to be the older EMUs will be the first to see 331s once training / clearance had been completed?
     
  26. theblackwatch

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    The 06.31 off Doncaster (Diag 2) was cancelled this morning.
     
  27. darloscott

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    Looks like it started from Wakefield on the way back - anyone know if it's a 331?
     
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    Just boarded it at Sandal, 331 110
     
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    I had this planned for the 331 introduction yesterday, but got tied up with other things, so hopefully I’ll do it tomorrow, Weds 3rd.

    2B68 1226 Doncaster - Leeds 1310
    (12.29 BYK-12.54 WKF)

    1D11 11:03 London Kings Cross- Leeds
    (13.01 WKF-13.14 LDS)

    1A33 13:45 Leeds - London King's Cross
    (13.45 LDS-13.56 WKF)

    2B19 1421 Leeds - Doncaster 1506
    (14.35 WKF-14.59 BYK)

    I’m hoping to take the opportunity to fit in 2 rides on Azuma as I haven’t had chance yet, but looking at prior postings, my return 331 from Wakefield will probably be a 321. Would appreciate it greatly if any regular commuters on the forum could update the status of traction on the diagrams tomorrow.
    Thanks in advance for any updates.
     
  30. xotGD

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    Saw 106 arrive in Leeds on the "peak extra" this morning, so ought to be the 17:57 off Leeds this pm. Unless it is swapped, of course.
     
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    I imagine they should rotate through NL each alternate day using the peak run as they’ll need cleaning and toilet emptying which won’t happen at Donny (I presume!)
     

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