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Updated to include 142038 at the Mid Norfolk Railway (not the North Norfolk / Poppy Line as I put initially).

Red - withdrawn.
Orange - scrapped / sent to be scrapped
Yellow - converted to other use (does not include food tins or razor blades).
Green - modified for Passengers of Reduced Mobility.
Blue - in storage.
Purple - preserved.
Pink - can operate provided that they are coupled to a PRM compliant unit.
Black - class 142 units that are still in service, subject to change in the coming months. (Includes the changes with the 144's)


Class 142
001 - Unit preserved. Due to move to the National Railway Museum in York.
002 -
003 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood. Unit set to be preserved by a private owner.
004 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
005 - First to be withdrawn, now scrapped (updated as of 7th December 2019)
006 -
007 - was in storage at Barrow, moved to Heaton TMD and now at Gascoigne Wood.
008 - Scrapped (Collided with a class 87 at Winsford in 1999).
009 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
010 -
011 - in storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
012 - Spare parts unit at Landore TMD.
013 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
014 - was in warm storage at Heaton TMD, now at Gascoigne Wood.
015 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
016 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
017 - in storage at Worksop, Unit to be preserved at East Kent Railway?
018 - in warm store at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
019 - Unit preserved by the Waverley Route Heritage Association
020 - Unit preserved by the Waverley Route Heritage Association
021 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
022 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
023 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit. Unit to be preserved at Plym Valley Railway?
024 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
025 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
026 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
027 - Unit preserved by Chasewater Railway as a spare parts donor for 029 and 030 + any other Pacer they aquire.
028 - Unit preserved by Wensleydale Railway
029 - Unit preserved at Chasewater Railway
030 - Unit preserved at Chasewater Railway
031 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
032 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood.
033 - Converted to a Police Training Unit by South Wales Police at Bridgend rugby pitch.
034 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
035 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
036 - Unit to be preserved at East Kent Railway, currently stored at Heaton TMD - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
037 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
038 - Unit preserved at the Mid Norfolk Railway
039 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
040 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
041 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit. Currently at Allerton.
042 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
043 - in storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
044 - Scrapped, second class 142 unit to be dismantled at CF Booths (the first being 005).
045 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
046 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
047 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
048 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
049 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
050 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
051 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
052 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
053 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
054 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
055 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
056 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood.
057 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
058 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
059 - Scrapped (Collided with buffer stops at Liverpool Lime Street in 1991.)
060 - Unit preserved by Wensleydale Railway.
061 - in storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
062 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
063 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
064 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
065 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
066 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
067 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
068 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit. Currently at Neville Hill TMD, Leeds.
069 -
070 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
071 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit. Currently being used as route learner unit between York and Scarborough.
072 -
073 -
074 -
075 -
076 -
077 -
078 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
079 - Spare parts unit at Landore TMD.
080 -
081 -
082 -
083 -
084 - Unit preserved by Rushden Historical Transport Society.
085 -
086 - Spare parts unit at Canton TMD.
087 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
088 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
089 - was in warm storage at Newton Heath TMD, moved to Heaton TMD and now at Gascoigne Wood.
090 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
091 - Unit preserved by Rushden Historical Transport Society.
092 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
093 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
094 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
095 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
096 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury. The last of the class lost for good.

Class 143 - A unit is to be preserved at the Swindon & Cricklade Railway, subject to confirmation but it won't be 603.
601
602
603 - Edit: unit was out in traffic going be reports on other threads.
604
605
606
607
608
609
610
611
612
613 - Scrapped (Unit caught fire near Nailsea & Backwell in 2004).
614
615 - Scrapped (Unit caught fire in 2005).
616
617
618
619
620
621
622
623
624
625

Class 144 - All units stabled at Neville Hill TMD, can run on specified routes and can run solo.
001 - "Penistone Line Partnership"
002
003 - unit to be preserved at the Great Central Railway at Ruddington.
004 - unit to be preserved at Aln Valley railway, Alnmouth.
005
006
007
008 - Currently opperating as a three car unit, centre car originally from 021.
009
010
011 - unit to be preserved at the Keighley & Worth Valley Railway.
012 - 144 Evolution has full PRM modifications. (Possibly the last ever Pacer in service?)
013
014
015
016
017 - unit set to be preserved. First three car Pacer to be preserved, location unknown.
018
019
020
021 - Currently operating as a two car unit, centre car has be placed in the middle of 008.
022
023

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Harvey B

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Updated to include 142038 at the Mid Norfolk Railway (not the North Norfolk / Poppy Line as I put initially).

Red - withdrawn.
Orange - scrapped / sent to be scrapped
Yellow - converted to other use (does not include food tins or razor blades).
Green - modified for Passengers of Reduced Mobility.
Blue - in storage.
Purple - preserved.
Pink - can operate provided that they are coupled to a PRM compliant unit.
Black - class 142 units that are still in service, subject to change in the coming months. (Includes the changes with the 144's)


Class 142
001 - Unit preserved. Due to move to the National Railway Museum in York.
002 -
003 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood. Unit set to be preserved by a private owner.
004 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
005 - First to be withdrawn, now scrapped (updated as of 7th December 2019)
006 -
007 - was in storage at Barrow, moved to Heaton TMD and now at Gascoigne Wood.
008 - Scrapped (Collided with a class 87 at Winsford in 1999).
009 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
010 -
011 - in storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
012 - Spare parts unit at Landore TMD.
013 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
014 - was in warm storage at Heaton TMD, now at Gascoigne Wood.
015 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
016 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
017 - in storage at Worksop, Unit to be preserved at East Kent Railway?
018 - in warm store at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
019 - Unit preserved by the Waverley Route Heritage Association
020 - Unit preserved by the Waverley Route Heritage Association
021 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
022 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
023 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit. Unit to be preserved at Plym Valley Railway?
024 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
025 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
026 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
027 - Unit preserved by Chasewater Railway as a spare parts donor for 029 and 030 + any other Pacer they aquire.
028 - Unit preserved by Wensleydale Railway
029 - Unit preserved at Chasewater Railway
030 - Unit preserved at Chasewater Railway
031 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
032 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood.
033 - Converted to a Police Training Unit by South Wales Police at Bridgend rugby pitch.
034 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
035 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
036 - Unit to be preserved at East Kent Railway, currently stored at Heaton TMD - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
037 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
038 - Unit preserved at the Mid Norfolk Railway
039 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
040 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
041 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit. Currently at Allerton.
042 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
043 - in storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
044 - Scrapped, second class 142 unit to be dismantled at CF Booths (the first being 005).
045 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
046 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
047 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
048 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
049 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
050 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
051 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
052 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
053 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
054 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
055 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
056 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood.
057 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
058 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
059 - Scrapped (Collided with buffer stops at Liverpool Lime Street in 1991.)
060 - Unit preserved by Wensleydale Railway.
061 - in storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
062 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
063 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
064 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
065 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
066 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
067 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
068 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit. Currently at Neville Hill TMD, Leeds.
069 -
070 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
071 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit. Currently being used as route learner unit between York and Scarborough.
072 -
073 -
074 -
075 -
076 -
077 -
078 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
079 - Spare parts unit at Landore TMD.
080 -
081 -
082 -
083 -
084 - Unit preserved by Rushden Historical Transport Society.
085 -
086 - Spare parts unit at Canton TMD.
087 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
088 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
089 - was in warm storage at Newton Heath TMD, moved to Heaton TMD and now at Gascoigne Wood.
090 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
091 - Unit preserved by Rushden Historical Transport Society.
092 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
093 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
094 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
095 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
096 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury. The last of the class lost for good.

Class 143 - A unit is to be preserved at the Swindon & Cricklade Railway, subject to confirmation but it won't be 603.
601
602
603 - Edit: unit was out in traffic going be reports on other threads.
604
605
606
607
608
609
610
611
612
613 - Scrapped (Unit caught fire near Nailsea & Backwell in 2004).
614
615 - Scrapped (Unit caught fire in 2005).
616
617
618
619
620
621
622
623
624
625

Class 144 - All units stabled at Neville Hill TMD, can run on specified routes and can run solo.
001 - "Penistone Line Partnership"
002
003 - unit to be preserved at the Great Central Railway at Ruddington.
004 - unit to be preserved at Aln Valley railway, Alnmouth.
005
006
007
008 - Currently opperating as a three car unit, centre car originally from 021.
009
010
011 - unit to be preserved at the Keighley & Worth Valley Railway.
012 - 144 Evolution has full PRM modifications. (Possibly the last ever Pacer in service?)
013
014
015
016
017 - unit set to be preserved. First three car Pacer to be preserved, location unknown.
018
019
020
021 - Currently operating as a two car unit, centre car has be placed in the middle of 008.
022
023

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why is it that some 142s must be connected to a unit with PRM mods and others can operate without being connected to a PRM unit
 

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why is it that some 142s must be connected to a unit with PRM mods and others can operate without being connected to a PRM unit
As per the dispensation letters:

Northern Trains 142s and Great Western Railway 143s have to be coupled to a PRM compliant unit but aren't restricted on routes

Transport for Wales 142s and 143s can run on their own and also aren't restricted on routes

...and Northern Trains 144s can run on their own but only on specified routes

Transport for Wales got the most lenient dispensation because to have any restrictions wouldn't have been practical
 

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Interesting to see or not due to overcrowding top off the olr northern agenda whether some off the stored 142s at heaton T&R.S.M.D may come back to the north west or not at newton Heath T.M.D for use with prm units. To the end off may. Also for first time ever today in the olr and government statement on takeover that overcrowding was mentioned but more importantly. Nothing about the banishing off Pacers or Pacers in general was mentioned which was a good thing has it been actually realised that Pacers are more than capable for use for overcrowding. And preventing cancellations and that they will be still be used because nothing else is available
 
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A little off topic but does anyone know the diagrams for 144008 now that it’s been reformed into a three car unit?
I'll be very surprised if 144008 sees service again. I believe it is currently in 'Warm Storage' with severe corrosion. Same applies to the centre coach from 144021 which is now in 144008.
 

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Angel trains are going to make an announcement tomorrow as to who owns what. We may even find out what country the rest of the ex northern ones are going to!
 

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I'll be very surprised if 144008 sees service again. I believe it is currently in 'Warm Storage' with severe corrosion. Same applies to the centre coach from 144021 which is now in 144008.
I always thought the Aluminium panelled 144s were much better than the steel 142s. Perhaps there steel framed.
K
 

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Must have left way later. Saw it going through newcastle central just before 11

In fact, today's move was a VSTP which apparantly comprised 142 035/055/047. So with another 3 next week, Gascoigne Wood'll soon be filling up again!
 

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Angel trains are going to make an announcement tomorrow as to who owns what. We may even find out what country the rest of the ex northern ones are going to!

Has this announcement taken place then?
 

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I'll be very surprised if 144008 sees service again. I believe it is currently in 'Warm Storage' with severe corrosion. Same applies to the centre coach from 144021 which is now in 144008.

I've marked 144008 down as in storage for the time being.

In fact, today's move was a VSTP which apparantly comprised 142 035/055/047. So with another 3 next week, Gascoigne Wood'll soon be filling up again!

Are these three units in storage or have they been sent for scrap?

Red - withdrawn.
Orange - scrapped / sent to be scrapped
Yellow - converted to other use (does not include food tins or razor blades).
Green - modified for Passengers of Reduced Mobility.
Blue - in storage.
Purple - preserved.
Pink - can operate provided that they are coupled to a PRM compliant unit.
Black - class 142 units that are still in service, subject to change in the coming months. (Includes the changes with the 144's)


Class 142
001 - Unit preserved. Due to move to the National Railway Museum in York.
002 -
003 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood. Unit set to be preserved by a private owner.
004 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
005 - First to be withdrawn, now scrapped (updated as of 7th December 2019)
006 -
007 - was in storage at Barrow, moved to Heaton TMD and now at Gascoigne Wood.
008 - Scrapped (Collided with a class 87 at Winsford in 1999).
009 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
010 -
011 - in storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
012 - Spare parts unit at Landore TMD.
013 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
014 - was in warm storage at Heaton TMD, now at Gascoigne Wood.
015 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
016 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
017 - in storage at Worksop, Unit to be preserved at East Kent Railway?
018 - in warm store at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
019 - Unit preserved by the Waverley Route Heritage Association
020 - Unit preserved by the Waverley Route Heritage Association
021 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
022 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
023 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit. Unit to be preserved at Plym Valley Railway?
024 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
025 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
026 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
027 - Unit preserved by Chasewater Railway as a spare parts donor for 029 and 030 + any other Pacer they aquire.
028 - Unit preserved by Wensleydale Railway
029 - Unit preserved at Chasewater Railway
030 - Unit preserved at Chasewater Railway
031 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
032 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood.
033 - Converted to a Police Training Unit by South Wales Police at Bridgend rugby pitch.
034 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
035 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
036 - Unit to be preserved at East Kent Railway, currently stored at Heaton TMD - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
037 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
038 - Unit preserved at the Mid Norfolk Railway
039 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
040 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
041 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit. Currently at Allerton.
042 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
043 - in storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
044 - Scrapped, second class 142 unit to be dismantled at CF Booths (the first being 005).
045 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
046 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
047 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
048 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
049 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
050 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
051 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
052 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
053 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
054 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
055 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
056 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood.
057 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
058 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
059 - Scrapped (Collided with buffer stops at Liverpool Lime Street in 1991.)
060 - Unit preserved by Wensleydale Railway.
061 - in storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
062 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
063 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
064 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
065 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
066 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
067 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
068 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit. Currently at Neville Hill TMD, Leeds.
069 -
070 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
071 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit. Currently being used as route learner unit between York and Scarborough.
072 -
073 -
074 -
075 -
076 -
077 -
078 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
079 - Spare parts unit at Landore TMD.
080 -
081 -
082 -
083 -
084 - Unit preserved by Rushden Historical Transport Society.
085 -
086 - Spare parts unit at Canton TMD.
087 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
088 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
089 - was in warm storage at Newton Heath TMD, moved to Heaton TMD and now at Gascoigne Wood.
090 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
091 - Unit preserved by Rushden Historical Transport Society.
092 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
093 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
094 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
095 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
096 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury. The last of the class lost for good.

Class 143 - A unit is to be preserved at the Swindon & Cricklade Railway, subject to confirmation but it won't be 603.
601
602
603 - Edit: unit was out in traffic going be reports on other threads.
604
605
606
607
608
609
610
611
612
613 - Scrapped (Unit caught fire near Nailsea & Backwell in 2004).
614
615 - Scrapped (Unit caught fire in 2005).
616
617
618
619
620
621
622
623
624
625

Class 144 - All units stabled at Neville Hill TMD, can run on specified routes and can run solo.
001 - "Penistone Line Partnership"
002
003 - unit to be preserved at the Great Central Railway at Ruddington.
004 - unit to be preserved at Aln Valley railway, Alnmouth.
005
006
007
008 - Currently in storage as a three car unit, centre car originally from 021.
009
010
011 - unit to be preserved at the Keighley & Worth Valley Railway.
012 - 144 Evolution has full PRM modifications. (Possibly the last ever Pacer in service?)
013
014
015
016
017 - unit set to be preserved. First three car Pacer to be preserved, location unknown.
018
019
020
021 - Currently operating as a two car unit, centre car has be placed in the middle of 008.
022
023

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Can someone pls assist me and attach off realtime trains on this thread according to realtime trains. There is another move from newton Heath T.M.D to gascoigne wood on the 9th.
 

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I've marked 144008 down as in storage for the time being.



Are these three units in storage or have they been sent for scrap?

Red - withdrawn.
Orange - scrapped / sent to be scrapped
Yellow - converted to other use (does not include food tins or razor blades).
Green - modified for Passengers of Reduced Mobility.
Blue - in storage.
Purple - preserved.
Pink - can operate provided that they are coupled to a PRM compliant unit.
Black - class 142 units that are still in service, subject to change in the coming months. (Includes the changes with the 144's)


Class 142
001 - Unit preserved. Due to move to the National Railway Museum in York.
002 -
003 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood. Unit set to be preserved by a private owner.
004 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
005 - First to be withdrawn, now scrapped (updated as of 7th December 2019)
006 -
007 - was in storage at Barrow, moved to Heaton TMD and now at Gascoigne Wood.
008 - Scrapped (Collided with a class 87 at Winsford in 1999).
009 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
010 -
011 - in storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
012 - Spare parts unit at Landore TMD.
013 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
014 - was in warm storage at Heaton TMD, now at Gascoigne Wood.
015 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
016 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
017 - in storage at Worksop, Unit to be preserved at East Kent Railway?
018 - in warm store at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
019 - Unit preserved by the Waverley Route Heritage Association
020 - Unit preserved by the Waverley Route Heritage Association
021 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
022 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
023 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit. Unit to be preserved at Plym Valley Railway?
024 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
025 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
026 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
027 - Unit preserved by Chasewater Railway as a spare parts donor for 029 and 030 + any other Pacer they aquire.
028 - Unit preserved by Wensleydale Railway
029 - Unit preserved at Chasewater Railway
030 - Unit preserved at Chasewater Railway
031 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
032 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood.
033 - Converted to a Police Training Unit by South Wales Police at Bridgend rugby pitch.
034 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
035 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
036 - Unit to be preserved at East Kent Railway, currently stored at Heaton TMD - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
037 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
038 - Unit preserved at the Mid Norfolk Railway
039 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
040 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
041 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit. Currently at Allerton.
042 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
043 - in storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
044 - Scrapped, second class 142 unit to be dismantled at CF Booths (the first being 005).
045 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
046 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
047 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
048 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
049 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
050 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
051 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
052 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
053 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
054 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
055 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
056 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood.
057 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
058 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
059 - Scrapped (Collided with buffer stops at Liverpool Lime Street in 1991.)
060 - Unit preserved by Wensleydale Railway.
061 - in storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
062 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
063 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
064 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
065 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
066 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
067 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
068 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit. Currently at Neville Hill TMD, Leeds.
069 -
070 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
071 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit. Currently being used as route learner unit between York and Scarborough.
072 -
073 -
074 -
075 -
076 -
077 -
078 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
079 - Spare parts unit at Landore TMD.
080 -
081 -
082 -
083 -
084 - Unit preserved by Rushden Historical Transport Society.
085 -
086 - Spare parts unit at Canton TMD.
087 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
088 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
089 - was in warm storage at Newton Heath TMD, moved to Heaton TMD and now at Gascoigne Wood.
090 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
091 - Unit preserved by Rushden Historical Transport Society.
092 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
093 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
094 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
095 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
096 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury. The last of the class lost for good.

Class 143 - A unit is to be preserved at the Swindon & Cricklade Railway, subject to confirmation but it won't be 603.
601
602
603 - Edit: unit was out in traffic going be reports on other threads.
604
605
606
607
608
609
610
611
612
613 - Scrapped (Unit caught fire near Nailsea & Backwell in 2004).
614
615 - Scrapped (Unit caught fire in 2005).
616
617
618
619
620
621
622
623
624
625

Class 144 - All units stabled at Neville Hill TMD, can run on specified routes and can run solo.
001 - "Penistone Line Partnership"
002
003 - unit to be preserved at the Great Central Railway at Ruddington.
004 - unit to be preserved at Aln Valley railway, Alnmouth.
005
006
007
008 - Currently in storage as a three car unit, centre car originally from 021.
009
010
011 - unit to be preserved at the Keighley & Worth Valley Railway.
012 - 144 Evolution has full PRM modifications. (Possibly the last ever Pacer in service?)
013
014
015
016
017 - unit set to be preserved. First three car Pacer to be preserved, location unknown.
018
019
020
021 - Currently operating as a two car unit, centre car has be placed in the middle of 008.
022
023

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Can someone pls assist me and attach off realtime trains on this thread according to realtime trains. There is another move from newton Heath T.M.D to gascoigne wood on the 9th.
the HT moves
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/98924/2020-03-06/detailed
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/99110/2020-03-07/detailed
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K00225/2020-03-10/detailed
the NH move
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K00224/2020-03-09/detailed
 

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Also tonight whilst travelling on 1814 Sheffield to Manchester Piccadilly. Got speaking to various rail user groups and other members off staff and tonight is the Last night for the 142s and locally they have campaigned for the 142s to stay to the may timetable. But sadly due to politics and arriva northern how it committed and replaned its pacer replacement plan into its franchise. For when the Pacers had to be replaced at later date. Due to late 195. Was not sufficient.
Poor hope valley will now see short forms on 1649 and 1749 Manchester Piccadilly to Sheffield. Also they claim on mcv side only 2 Pacers will be left or so for the remaining two diagrams.
 

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Updated to show the three class 142's that are now of lease, these have been highlighted red.

From what I gather, there are now roughly 16 (out of 94) class 142's in service - that is all the TfW units and the handful that Northern has left. There's 23 (of of 25) class 143's in service with both GWR and TfW and finally there's 22 (out of 23) class 144's operating with Northern. Once all the class 142's have been withdrawn from service, the list below will concentrate on both the class 143's and 144's up to the point when the last class 143 and 144 is withdrawn (I'm guessing it'll be 144012 with 144023 being the penultimate and last three car set.) I do envy someone copying the list into wikipedia, its going to take them ages.



Red - withdrawn / off lease.
Orange - scrapped / sent to be scrapped
Yellow - converted to other use (does not include food tins or razor blades).
Green - modified for Passengers of Reduced Mobility.
Blue - in storage.
Purple - preserved.
Pink - can operate provided that they are coupled to a PRM compliant unit.
Black - class 142 units that are still in service, subject to change in the coming months. (Includes the changes with the 144's)


Class 142
001 - Unit preserved. Due to move to the National Railway Museum in York.
002 -
003 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood. Unit set to be preserved by a private owner.
004 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
005 - First to be withdrawn, now scrapped (updated as of 7th December 2019)
006 -
007 - was in storage at Barrow, moved to Heaton TMD and now at Gascoigne Wood.
008 - Scrapped (Collided with a class 87 at Winsford in 1999).
009 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
010 -
011 - in storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
012 - Spare parts unit at Landore TMD.
013 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
014 - was in warm storage at Heaton TMD, now at Gascoigne Wood.
015 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
016 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
017 - in storage at Worksop, Unit to be preserved at East Kent Railway?
018 - in warm store at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
019 - Unit preserved by the Waverley Route Heritage Association
020 - Unit preserved by the Waverley Route Heritage Association
021 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
022 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
023 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit. Unit to be preserved at Plym Valley Railway?
024 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
025 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
026 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
027 - Unit preserved by Chasewater Railway as a spare parts donor for 029 and 030 + any other Pacer they aquire.
028 - Unit preserved by Wensleydale Railway
029 - Unit preserved at Chasewater Railway
030 - Unit preserved at Chasewater Railway
031 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
032 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood.
033 - Converted to a Police Training Unit by South Wales Police at Bridgend rugby pitch.
034 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
035 - Off Lease 06/03/20.
036 - Unit to be preserved at East Kent Railway, currently stored at Heaton TMD - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
037 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
038 - Unit preserved at the Mid Norfolk Railway
039 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
040 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
041 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit. Currently at Allerton.
042 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
043 - in storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
044 - Scrapped, second class 142 unit to be dismantled at CF Booths (the first being 005).
045 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
046 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
047 - Off lease 06/03/20.
048 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
049 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
050 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
051 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
052 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
053 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
054 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
055 - Off lease 06/03/20.
056 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood.
057 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
058 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
059 - Scrapped (Collided with buffer stops at Liverpool Lime Street in 1991.)
060 - Unit preserved by Wensleydale Railway.
061 - in storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
062 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
063 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
064 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
065 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
066 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
067 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
068 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit. Currently at Neville Hill TMD, Leeds.
069 -
070 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
071 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit. Currently being used as route learner unit between York and Scarborough.
072 -
073 -
074 -
075 -
076 -
077 -
078 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
079 - Spare parts unit at Landore TMD.
080 -
081 -
082 -
083 -
084 - Unit preserved by Rushden Historical Transport Society.
085 -
086 - Spare parts unit at Canton TMD.
087 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
088 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
089 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood.
090 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
091 - Unit preserved by Rushden Historical Transport Society.
092 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
093 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
094 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
095 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
096 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury. The last of the class lost for good.

Class 143 - A unit is to be preserved at the Swindon & Cricklade Railway, subject to confirmation but it won't be 603.
601
602
603 - Edit: unit was out in traffic going be reports on other threads.
604
605
606
607
608
609
610
611
612
613 - Scrapped (Unit caught fire near Nailsea & Backwell in 2004).
614
615 - Scrapped (Unit caught fire in 2005).
616
617
618
619
620
621
622
623
624
625

Class 144 - All units stabled at Neville Hill TMD, can run on specified routes and can run solo.
001 - "Penistone Line Partnership"
002
003 - unit to be preserved at the Great Central Railway at Ruddington.
004 - unit to be preserved at Aln Valley railway, Alnmouth.
005
006
007
008 - Currently in storage as a three car unit, centre car originally from 021.
009
010
011 - unit to be preserved at the Keighley & Worth Valley Railway.
012 - 144 Evolution has full PRM modifications. (Possibly the last ever Pacer in service?)
013
014
015
016
017 - unit set to be preserved. First three car Pacer to be preserved, location unknown.
018
019
020
021 - Currently operating as a two car unit, centre car has be placed in the middle of 008.
022
023

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Updated to show the three class 142's that are now of lease, these have been highlighted red.

From what I gather, there are now roughly 16 (out of 94) class 142's in service - that is all the TfW units and the handful that Northern has left. There's 23 (of of 25) class 143's in service with both GWR and TfW and finally there's 22 (out of 23) class 144's operating with Northern. Once all the class 142's have been withdrawn from service, the list below will concentrate on both the class 143's and 144's up to the point when the last class 143 and 144 is withdrawn (I'm guessing it'll be 144012 with 144023 being the penultimate and last three car set.) I do envy someone copying the list into wikipedia, its going to take them ages.



Red - withdrawn / off lease.
Orange - scrapped / sent to be scrapped
Yellow - converted to other use (does not include food tins or razor blades).
Green - modified for Passengers of Reduced Mobility.
Blue - in storage.
Purple - preserved.
Pink - can operate provided that they are coupled to a PRM compliant unit.
Black - class 142 units that are still in service, subject to change in the coming months. (Includes the changes with the 144's)


Class 142
001 - Unit preserved. Due to move to the National Railway Museum in York.
002 -
003 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood. Unit set to be preserved by a private owner.
004 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
005 - First to be withdrawn, now scrapped (updated as of 7th December 2019)
006 -
007 - was in storage at Barrow, moved to Heaton TMD and now at Gascoigne Wood.
008 - Scrapped (Collided with a class 87 at Winsford in 1999).
009 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
010 -
011 - in storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
012 - Spare parts unit at Landore TMD.
013 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
014 - was in warm storage at Heaton TMD, now at Gascoigne Wood.
015 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
016 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
017 - in storage at Worksop, Unit to be preserved at East Kent Railway?
018 - in warm store at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
019 - Unit preserved by the Waverley Route Heritage Association
020 - Unit preserved by the Waverley Route Heritage Association
021 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
022 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
023 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit. Unit to be preserved at Plym Valley Railway?
024 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
025 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
026 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
027 - Unit preserved by Chasewater Railway as a spare parts donor for 029 and 030 + any other Pacer they aquire.
028 - Unit preserved by Wensleydale Railway
029 - Unit preserved at Chasewater Railway
030 - Unit preserved at Chasewater Railway
031 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
032 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood.
033 - Converted to a Police Training Unit by South Wales Police at Bridgend rugby pitch.
034 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
035 - Off Lease 06/03/20.
036 - Unit to be preserved at East Kent Railway, currently stored at Heaton TMD - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
037 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
038 - Unit preserved at the Mid Norfolk Railway
039 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
040 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
041 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit. Currently at Allerton.
042 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
043 - in storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
044 - Scrapped, second class 142 unit to be dismantled at CF Booths (the first being 005).
045 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
046 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
047 - Off lease 06/03/20.
048 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
049 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
050 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
051 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
052 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
053 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
054 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
055 - Off lease 06/03/20.
056 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood.
057 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
058 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
059 - Scrapped (Collided with buffer stops at Liverpool Lime Street in 1991.)
060 - Unit preserved by Wensleydale Railway.
061 - in storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
062 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
063 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
064 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
065 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
066 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
067 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
068 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit. Currently at Neville Hill TMD, Leeds.
069 -
070 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
071 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit. Currently being used as route learner unit between York and Scarborough.
072 -
073 -
074 -
075 -
076 -
077 -
078 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
079 - Spare parts unit at Landore TMD.
080 -
081 -
082 -
083 -
084 - Unit preserved by Rushden Historical Transport Society.
085 -
086 - Spare parts unit at Canton TMD.
087 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
088 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
089 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood.
090 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
091 - Unit preserved by Rushden Historical Transport Society.
092 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
093 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
094 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
095 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
096 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury. The last of the class lost for good.

Class 143 - A unit is to be preserved at the Swindon & Cricklade Railway, subject to confirmation but it won't be 603.
601
602
603 - Edit: unit was out in traffic going be reports on other threads.
604
605
606
607
608
609
610
611
612
613 - Scrapped (Unit caught fire near Nailsea & Backwell in 2004).
614
615 - Scrapped (Unit caught fire in 2005).
616
617
618
619
620
621
622
623
624
625

Class 144 - All units stabled at Neville Hill TMD, can run on specified routes and can run solo.
001 - "Penistone Line Partnership"
002
003 - unit to be preserved at the Great Central Railway at Ruddington.
004 - unit to be preserved at Aln Valley railway, Alnmouth.
005
006
007
008 - Currently in storage as a three car unit, centre car originally from 021.
009
010
011 - unit to be preserved at the Keighley & Worth Valley Railway.
012 - 144 Evolution has full PRM modifications. (Possibly the last ever Pacer in service?)
013
014
015
016
017 - unit set to be preserved. First three car Pacer to be preserved, location unknown.
018
019
020
021 - Currently operating as a two car unit, centre car has be placed in the middle of 008.
022
023

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All of TfW's 142s = 15, plus a handful of Northern ones = at least 18...?
 
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