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Northern post pacer and PRM allocations

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Note that in this months Todays railways 158 790 has moved from NL to Heaton to join the 16 Perkins engined ones 158 815-17, 842-45, 48-51, 53, 55, 59-61 which means Heaton is all 158 and 156 ?-?.
Although Northern allocations is not always an indication of where units are based my best guess is:-
Newton Heath is all the 195s, ?x150s plus 156.
Allerton 331, 323, 319
Neville hill 6x331/1, 16x333, 1x321, ?x322, ?x158, 7x155, 16x170 and possibly a few 150s.
Probably missed something, anyone any thoughts.
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As far as I'm aware the 323s are based at Allerton too.
Only a few of these have received PRM mods as it was planned that they would be withdrawn and so were rushed into the program at the last minute.
 

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Note that in this months Todays railways 158 790 has moved from NL to Heaton to join the 16 Perkins engined ones 158 815-17, 842-45, 48-51, 53, 55, 59-61 which means Heaton is all 158 and 156 ?-?.
Although Northern allocations is not always an indication of where units are based my best guess is:-
Newton Heath is all the 195s plus 150s,
Allerton 331, 323, 319, 156,
Neville hill 331, 333, 321, 322, 158, 155 and possibly a few 150s.
Probably missed something, anyone any thoughts.
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That's interesting as 158790 has been around Leeds the past few days, so it doesn't look like depot location means much as to where the unit is based

Neville Hill also has the 16 170s but agree it does appear will end up with fewer based units than present
 

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That's interesting as 158790 has been around Leeds the past few days, so it doesn't look like depot location means much as to where the unit is based

Neville Hill also has the 16 170s but agree it does appear will end up with fewer based units than present
Forgot 170s, and 323s senile decay. Original post edited.
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No 156’s based at Allerton. All at NH.

158790 will be seen around Leeds as well as the other Heaton based ones.

There are Heaton diagrams that go to Hull, Morecambe, a diagram on the Knottingley’s.
 

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No 156’s based at Allerton. All at NH.

158790 will be seen around Leeds as well as the other Heaton based ones.

There are Heaton diagrams that go to Hull, Morecambe, a diagram on the Knottingley’s.
Thanks. Original updated.
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There was a recent post on the Pacer withdrawal group that post Pacer Northerns dmu fleet will lose 214 coaches and gain 263 which with all the continuing shortformings is a puzzle.
I wonder how many dmus they actually need at peak times compared with how many they have.
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How many DMU services are Northern operating compared to the beginning of the franchise, might this explain some of the ~50 extra vehicles being used?

Alternatively reliability could be awful along with a few refurbs being done might not help
 

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There are certainly more 158s and 156s on Stalybridge services now. Are they based at Newton Heath?
 

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There are certainly more 158s and 156s on Stalybridge services now. Are they based at Newton Heath?
158s are mostly based at Neville hill with 17 at Heaton and 156s are split between Heaton and Newton heath. Being allocated to a particular depot is for non day to day and major maintenance so units may appear almost anywhere.
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