Northern Rail Repaints

[northernchris]

158861 is the latest Northern unit to lose its promotional vinyls on repaint. Have Northern changed their policy regarding these, as many showed off some of the fantastic places on the network

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Would this be a case of ensuring a uniform livery in the period of the direct grant franchise

 

[61653 HTAFC]

I think the vinyls are funded by local authorities/tourist boards/PTEs, so if that funding has been stopped the vinyls will be removed.

That said, doesn't the 'Capital of Culture' 185 still have its associated branding?

 

[Old Hill Bank]

I would think the case is that the ROSCO have to re-paint them every xx years and that's where we are at.

 

[Crossover]

Yes 185108 still has it's vinyls - I was on it from Scarborough on Good Friday

 

[northernchris]

I think the vinyls are funded by local authorities/tourist boards/PTEs, so if that funding has been stopped the vinyls will be removed.

That said, doesn't the 'Capital of Culture' 185 still have its associated branding?

185108 still did have its branding when I last saw it a couple of weeks ago

Beaten to it!

 

[Emyr]

185 are TPEx, not Northern.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Yes 185108 still has it's vinyls - I was on it from Scarborough on Good Friday

Well, at least it was being used on a service to Liverpool then, even if the branding is 6 years out-of-date!

185 are TPEx, not Northern.

Yes, we know :roll:

I just mentioned it as a caveat to my point about promotional brandings. Sorry!

 

[luke1420]

Any idea of when 185108 will lose its vinyls? I mean i think it makes the unit look quite good, its just it is a bit outdated now!

 

[Nean]

They could just paint over the "Liverpool" with "Hull" and use it on the 2 185 Hull services (IIRC there are only 2 a day that are 185s)... then they won't have to repaint til after 2017

 

[luke1420]

yeah i see where you are coming from but TPE would not be able to only allocate it on the Manchester-Hull route. it would end up on any of the diagrams that are booked 185 on TPE's Network.

 

[BantamMenace]

Is the benefit not in the fact it'll be going to places other than Hull. You dont need to advertise to or inform the people of Hull to go and visit Hull because it is the capital of culture. You want the people of Liverpool, Manchester, Leeds, York, Newcastle... to go and visit.

 

[Emyr]

If you run it on Hull-bound services, people who see it may think

"Hey, I can go to Hull from here!"

One would hope they were not already prejudiced against Hull though.

 

[Crossover]

If you run it on Hull-bound services, people who see it may think

"Hey, I can go to Hull from here!"

One would hope they were not already prejudiced against Hull though.

I wouldn't be overly surprised if 185108 had made it up to Scotland before now, to be honest!

 

[fgwrich]

I wouldn't be overly surprised if 185108 had made it up to Scotland before now, to be honest!

Many a time! Everytime I'm up in Edinburgh it seems to be on the Manc - Edinburgh services.

I think it would be good publicity though, and they could have a Hull unit paired with the Liverpool one for a Cross Transpennine Trail of Culture.

 

[Crossforth]

Which other 158s have also lost their vinyls? As this is the first I've heard of it

 

[northernchris]

Which other 158s have also lost their vinyls? As this is the first I've heard of it

AFAIK 158790 is the only other 158 besides 861 to lose its vinyls, but this was promoting the Northern Rail Cup which now no longer exists. However 156448, 156469 and 156490 have lost their vinyls on repaint