TWAO - Transport and Works Act Order, I think?I'm hoping the Castlefield area TWAO will be considered as part of the TRU so Picc platforms 15/16 can still be delivered. Forlorn hope though I guess?
But what's a TRU?
TWAO - Transport and Works Act Order, I think?I'm hoping the Castlefield area TWAO will be considered as part of the TRU so Picc platforms 15/16 can still be delivered. Forlorn hope though I guess?
Surely the issue at Manchester is more the lack of west-facing terminal platforms? If the TSR is fully implemented, the Victoria through platforms will have to terminate two DMUs per hour, from Kirkby and Wigan Wallgate, and one EMU per hour, from Preston. The Calder Valley services will all run through Victoria, leaving the hourly Stalybridge shuttle as the only service using the east-facing bays.
To avoid cluttering this timetable thread with posts about infrastructure solutions, I have created a new thread in the infrastructure forum: https://www.railforums.co.uk/thread...to-west-facing-capacity-in-manchester.178560/I wonder if something could be done with the up through line at Salford Crescent for this sort of thing. Build a platform and access to the booking hall and then the through line should be able to cope with one or two terminating trains per hour, given the southbound TPE services will be the only through trains to utilise it.
Transpennine Route Upgrade perhaps?TWAO - Transport and Works Act Order, I think?
But what's a TRU?
Just because the trains are crowded in rush hour does not mean that there would be enough money made from making them longer to justify the extra cost of said longer trains.
Like it or not, the railway is a business and if adding carriages does not make money it is not going to happen.
I think it's supposed to be done at least 12 weeks before, which is this Sunday.Are northern going to release the timetable soon? The 3 months in advance it usually takes is almost here. Or are we getting a repeat of last years may debarcle? Suppose only time will tell.
I think it has already been said that Northern were not expecting to fully release it until about 10 weeks before, cannot find it up thread.I think it's supposed to be done at least 12 weeks before, which is this Sunday.
Are northern going to release the timetable soon? The 3 months in advance it usually takes is almost here. Or are we getting a repeat of last years may debarcle? Suppose only time will tell.
I think it's supposed to be done at least 12 weeks before, which is this Sunday.
I think it has already been said that Northern were not expecting to fully release it until about 10 weeks before, cannot find it up thread.
I think it has already been said that Northern were not expecting to fully release it until about 10 weeks before, cannot find it up thread.
Are northern going to release the timetable soon? The 3 months in advance it usually takes is almost here. Or are we getting a repeat of last years may debarcle? Suppose only time will tell.
Not quite. I've just looked and everything that had already been entered for both Wigans, and Bolton, is still there. We knew there were things that were still going to change, so let's try not to jump to conclusions.The timetables was in the system a few weeks ago but have disappeared....... it reminds me of what happened 12 months ago.... We all know what took place a shambles...... Could it be a repeat of May 2018?????
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Looking again at the two weekday Hazel Grove to Blackpool North services that were loaded on 19 Jan (1030 and 1530 from Piccadilly), which are pathed as 90mph 323s, they are actually scheduled to take 52 minutes from Piccadilly to Preston, exactly the same as the current 1031 and 1531 Piccadilly to Blackpool North DMU services, pathed as 75mph Sprinters. They have the same stopping pattern, so plenty of slack there. From Preston to Blackpool they are two or three minutes quicker.Northern's services have started to be entered in Real Train Times, and because there are likely to be a few big changes, I thought they deserved their own thread.
At this time, there are a couple of Hazel Grove - Blackpool services loaded in which are three minutes quicker between Piccadilly and Preston than the current services, partly because they have one fewer stop - I thought there would be more of a time gain than this! They are pathed as Class 323s.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/sea...-2359?stp=WVS&show=passenger&order=wtt&toc=NT
When I made enquiries with Northern I was told it was declassified. I also spoke briefly with the guard and he confirmed they were all considered declassified now, to the best of his knowledge. The timetable agrees, indicating that First Class isn't available.Anyone know if first class is declassified on the 185s on the Barrow-Manchester services?
However, there is also one Buxton (0834) to Piccadilly (0936) service loaded. This takes the path of the current (off pattern) 0910 Hazel Grove to Piccadilly EMU, with the same stopping pattern.
When I made enquiries with Northern I was told it was declassified. I also spoke briefly with the guard and he confirmed they were all considered declassified now, to the best of his knowledge. The timetable agrees, indicating that First Class isn't available.
Numerous runs from Chester to Earlestown on RTT today. Could these be route knowledge training for Chester to Leeds?
Good to hear. Hopefully the Chester to Leeds service will make the May timetable.Yes. Route learning for Man Vic drivers, been going every Saturday for weeks now.
Bluntly, it's better to get it right than release it before it's ready. I, and I'm sure most others, would far rather it be done right than done quickly.@Northernassist Twitter say another 4 - 5 weeks before Northern publish their May 2019 timetable
https://twitter.com/passengersfirst/status/1103381332430852097?s=12
Already past the T-12 date so this will be around T-6 weeks
Shades of a repeat of May 2018 in prospect??
Well I take the completely opposite viewpoint.Bluntly, it's better to get it right than release it before it's ready. I, and I'm sure most others, would far rather it be done right than done quickly.
I twitted them and they said it wasn't ready and didn't give me a specific date when it would be. It would help as I want to book a couple of trips early June so the connection times would be more than handy!!Are northern going to release the timetable soon? The 3 months in advance it usually takes is almost here. Or are we getting a repeat of last years may debarcle? Suppose only time will tell.