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Northern Unit Refurbishments
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Which other 150/1s & 2s are at Wabtec at present? Only got 116 (Nor) and 125 (GWR/NOR) noted, whereas I'm sure I saw it commented that up to 4 units would be present at a time for PRM work.
jonesy3001
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How come 116 hasn't been repainted, is it one of the units that could go 3 car(again)?
jonesy3001
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take it northern want to do the PRM work done before they send them for repaint now that they taken on more units from other TOCs?
It looks as if there have been some modifications made to the driver's side of the cab - FFCTV perhaps?
It's also interesting to see that the similarly arranged (in terms of doors at least) 195s have the upwards swoosh ending before the first set of doors, whereas on this one, it only starts to turn up after the door!
It's also interesting to see that the similarly arranged (in terms of doors at least) 195s have the upwards swoosh ending before the first set of doors, whereas on this one, it only starts to turn up after the door!
Halish Railway
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Looks good already!
It really marks the up in quality the Northern network will receive in the next few years.
The ones coming in for prm only had their corrosion and c6 repairs done at the start of the program jan 2014 , they were supposed to be getting the toilets then but angel changed their minds and decided on fitting the pcc grande toilet which meant redesigning the low roof area , if you look at the porterbrook 150s on northern their toilets are slightly different internally and are 50mm smaller than the grande
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I take it back - I've said before that it was pretty uninspired but actually I think it is pretty decent...
Although I do worry if this will still be the case after a few years of use and minimal external cleaning....
Having seen this, the Northern livery seems to suit 170s very well!
However, I don't see it looking that good for long, with Arriva maintaining them!
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I wouldn't say no to one as the 150's are likley to be the last units with the roller blinds and as such its a bit of history being preserved.
I'm guessing the 156's will end up with LED blinds upon referbishment since they're likely to be in service 'til around 2030 possibly 2040 at a push.
darylyates17
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319364 is now in full livery not sure if its already been mentioned or how long its been in full livery but it' the first time I've seen it in full livery
PaintYourWagon
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Thanks for 319364....a photo shows 319365 in new livery, dated 13th April....so only 319367/368/377 are remaining.
darylyates17
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No worries and thanks for letting me know about 319365 as I hadn't updated that on my list
Currently on 156444 between Newcastle and Nunthorpe. At Sunderland the internal Customer Information Screens started to use automated announcements and scrolling messages rather than just the destination of the train.
First time I’ve seen CIS working on the refurbed 156s and on the Durham Coast. Good to see even if the voice is a tad irritating!
First time I’ve seen CIS working on the refurbed 156s and on the Durham Coast. Good to see even if the voice is a tad irritating!
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175001
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Yes FINALLY our TrainFX is being updated. All of the route codes are for the May timetable change so not all will be working as yet but some can be used right now.
158791 returned from Loughborough today having had PRM modifications. The unit hasn’t been internally or externally refurbished
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P90056/2018/04/21/advanced
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P90056/2018/04/21/advanced
The trainfx upgrade is a half way house to a headcode based system which there is some problems getting perfect. The current systems are been updated slowly and not all have the stops load on yet
158796 is going the other way just passed through Leeds enroute to Loughborough
superkev
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Rode on refreshed 158 752 today on the Calder Valley line. Sad to see the centre car hoppers open usually indicating air cooling failure. Carpet was starting to look tired too.
I think Neville hill will have to up there game with the 170's and new trains as they don't have emergency hoppers to open.
Calder Valley was bit cosy today with mostly 2 car trains operating including a rammed well beyond capacity 142.
Can't believe northern are still short of units.
K
I think Neville hill will have to up there game with the 170's and new trains as they don't have emergency hoppers to open.
Calder Valley was bit cosy today with mostly 2 car trains operating including a rammed well beyond capacity 142.
Can't believe northern are still short of units.
K
61653 HTAFC
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Especially with no units on Huddersfield to Leeds via Dewsbury today, due to TPE needing P4a at HUD free for reversals.
How many of Northern's 156 fleet is still unrefurbished (still in the old livery)?
Is the reason for 150s appearing on Sheffield-Leeds via Barnsley Express's because of the current shortage of 158s at the moment only I've seen a couple on there recently and also seen a 150 on a Nottingham diagram as well
Is the reason for 150s appearing on Sheffield-Leeds via Barnsley Express's because of the current shortage of 158s at the moment only I've seen a couple on there recently and also seen a 150 on a Nottingham diagram as well
Or the air con wasn't working enough for someone, the 158 I travelled on yesterday had hopper windows open so when I got on I checked the air-conditioning status lights but they were showing green.
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The Leeds-Sheffield/Nottingham's interwork however there has been an increase lately in 150s on the route. AFAIK there should be 3 158s out for refurb/PRM mods at a time which will put some pressure on the fleet. Once the Sheffield's extend to Lincoln it will be interesting to see if the route will see a greater mix of 150 and 158 operation
superkev
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Not good trying to cool down the world.
I'm with Ian Warmsley from Modern railways magazine in that the hoppers should be removed to both stop misuse and encourage maintenance to prioritize a/c faults.
K