Northern Unit Refurbishments

[northernchris]

158906 is currently on it's way to Crewe, completing Northern's 158 PRM mods programme

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K00244/2019-12-28/detailed

 

[superkev]

158906 is currently on it's way to Crewe, completing Northern's 158 PRM mods programme

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K00244/2019-12-28/detailed

Thanks. I have 158 903, 906, 907, 910 in works. Has anything come back recently?
K

 

[northernchris]

Thanks
Has anything come back recently?
K

Not that I'm aware of. I think it's 903 and 910 at Crewe and 907 at Bristol

 

[darylyates17]

How many units in service are looking like they wont have PRM mods done before the 31st?

 

[jonesy3001]

Can think of 150110/111 and 122 , 122 is also last the gwr blue one to do and was the first to arrive,
150/2 and 156s unsure about, the 323s should be all done before Easter, now they're staying,
All 158s are now PRM'd, with 906 the last to go to Crewe today.

 

[superkev]

Can think of 150110/111 and 122 , 122 is also last the gwr blue one to do and was the first to arrive,
150/2 and 156s unsure about, the 323s should be all done before Easter, now they're staying,
All 158s are now PRM'd, with 906 the last to go to Crewe today.

I suppose with not too many units, mainly the 11x156s to PRM, the next step is to carry out the as in the franchise "back to new condition interiors".
Based on 507021s excellent blog and other info gained I have around 28 units to PRM including 150/107, 215, 218, 224, 228, 268; 156/459; 158/903, 906, 907, 910 in works (some nay have returned) with 85 needing the full monty.
K

 

[northernchris]

Can think of 150110/111 and 122 , 122 is also last the gwr blue one to do and was the first to arrive,
150/2 and 156s unsure about, the 323s should be all done before Easter, now they're staying,
All 158s are now PRM'd, with 906 the last to go to Crewe today.

150110 went to Doncaster last week I think, so I've got the following still in service without having had PRM mods (excluding pacers and 153s as these are supposedly leaving soon)

150 - 111, 122, 201, 209, 210, 226
156 - 425, 426, 429, 447, 449, 460, 461, 464, 465, 485, 496

I'm not sure if the 333s are fully compliant as they don't auto announce Kirkstall Forge or Apperley Bridge, plus there's the 323s

 

[61653 HTAFC]

A number of 153s will be staying for longer than originally planned, but there's a separate thread for that.

 

[darylyates17]

150110 went to Doncaster last week I think, so I've got the following still in service without having had PRM mods (excluding pacers and 153s as these are supposedly leaving soon)

150 - 111, 122, 201, 209, 210, 226
156 - 425, 426, 429, 447, 449, 460, 461, 464, 465, 485, 496

I'm not sure if the 333s are fully compliant as they don't auto announce Kirkstall Forge or Apperley Bridge, plus there's the 323s

Not that many units left to do then I assume 150209 will be probably the last to sort out due to it not having a toilet.

 

[Karl]

Why does 150209 not have a toilet? How can that be? Surely every train has a toilet?

 

[darylyates17]

Why does 150209 not have a toilet? How can that be? Surely every train has a toilet?

They are mismatching carriages (57209/57212) as the 52 was written off, the other carriage is off 150212 as it also lost its 52 carriage but the unit as a whole is numbered 150209.

 

[Karl]

Oh I see. Thanks for that. I guess this is a unique example?

 

[Peter Bonner]

Can think of 150110/111 and 122 , 122 is also last the gwr blue one to do and was the first to arrive,
150/2 and 156s unsure about, the 323s should be all done before Easter, now they're staying,
All 158s are now PRM'd, with 906 the last to go to Crewe today.

Are you sure all 158s are refurbished? Or being refurbished atm?

 

[Peter A]

Are you sure all 158s are refurbished? Or being refurbished atm?

They haven't all been fully refurbished but have all been PRM'd or are currently being done

 

[59CosG95]

Oh I see. Thanks for that. I guess this is a unique example?

It certainly is.

 

[323 Class]

150110 went to Doncaster last week I think, so I've got the following still in service without having had PRM mods (excluding pacers and 153s as these are supposedly leaving

150 - 111, 122, 201, 209, 210, 226
156 - 425, 426, 429, 447, 449, 460, 461, 464, 465, 485, 496

I'm not sure if the 333s are fully compliant as they don't auto announce Kirkstall Forge or Apperley Bridge, plus there's the 323s

I noted 150135 at Bolton today which seems to have escaped from your list.
150201 is on there though.

 

[sd0733]

I noted 150135 at Bolton today which seems to have escaped from your list.
150201 is on there

135 has been PRM modified as the inner window has been plated over. It's just not had a repaint.

 

[jonesy3001]

135, Had corrosion work done at Kilmarnock a few year ago, only had mods and robobog fitted like some of the former central trains 150/1s still in the old livery.
110 and 111 are the last of them units to be done.

 

[superkev]

Could this sat booked path Crewe to Neville hill be the resumption of PRM etc after the Christmad break.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K06122/2020-01-04/detailed
K

 

[Harvey B]

150110 went to Doncaster last week I think, so I've got the following still in service without having had PRM mods (excluding pacers and 153s as these are supposedly leaving soon)

150 - 111, 122, 201, 209, 210, 226
156 - 425, 426, 429, 447, 449, 460, 461, 464, 465, 485, 496

I'm not sure if the 333s are fully compliant as they don't auto announce Kirkstall Forge or Apperley Bridge, plus there's the 323s

You would have thought that the 333 announcements would have been updated now but I think that The DFT will make an exception seen as they're (mostly) PRM compliant anyway and I doubt thats as important as getting the PRM work for other units done

 

[jonesy3001]

are they still giving the remaining sprinters PRM mods, even though the deadline has passed?

 

[43096]

are they still giving the remaining sprinters PRM mods, even though the deadline has passed?

Pretty obviously yes, as the dispensations are time limited.

 

[yorksrob]

Am currently on a 150 where the refurb seems to have improved over previous examples:

• Moquette rather than flat cloth (yes, we knew that one already.
• Seatbacks now painted in a pleasing sky blue.
• Grab rails and luggage rack ends now painted in turquoise rather than yellow.
• Also has usb charge points

All in all, a much improved ambience.

 

[IamTrainsYT]

how come 150209 wasn't refurbished straight after it arrived from GWR? you would have thought they would at least give it a toilet

 

[jonesy3001]

156 movement while folk were pushing out the Z's;
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C02306/2020-01-04/detailed
And 150201 on the doncaster movement from newton heath;
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K05892/2020-01-04/detailed

also possible 323 movements;

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K06054/2020-01-04/detailed
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K06055/2020-01-04/detailed

 

[jonesy3001]

how come 150209 wasn't refurbished straight after it arrived from GWR? you would have thought they would at least give it a toilet

The former FNW 150/2s are going for C6 first, probably do that one last.

 

[superkev]

Could this sat booked path Crewe to Neville hill be the resumption of PRM etc after the Christmad break.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K06122/2020-01-04/detailed
K

Cancelled.

 

[northernchris]

Am currently on a 150 where the refurb seems to have improved over previous examples:

• Moquette rather than flat cloth (yes, we knew that one already.
• Seatbacks now painted in a pleasing sky blue.
• Grab rails and luggage rack ends now painted in turquoise rather than yellow.
• Also has usb charge points

All in all, a much improved ambience.

Sounds like 150275, which was the initial refurb before the grabrails were changed to yellow. It recently gained the new seat covers

 

[yorksrob]

Sounds like 150275, which was the initial refurb before the grabrails were changed to yellow. It recently gained the new seat covers

Oh. So it's gone the other way then !

 

[61653 HTAFC]

how come 150209 wasn't refurbished straight after it arrived from GWR? you would have thought they would at least give it a toilet

The original plan for Northern was to form a smallish subfleet of 3-car 150s, so the two orphaned cars would be inserted into the middle of a 150/1. It was mentioned months ago on this thread that this plan had been abandoned but so far there's been nothing official. There are now only a few unrefurbished 150/2s left which could be used for this though.

AIUI the two "real" 3-car units are due to transfer from GWR during 2020 still.