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156460 now complete and noticed today 150132 has now been changed from flat cloth to moquette. First example I've seen done. Is there a 3 car 158 in at Holbeck at the moment does anyone know?
 
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Re Remaining units still to PRM.
Not sure if I'm upto date but of Notherns Angel trains fleet I have just 156 447, 449, 465, 485 (all ex Scòtrail) to PRM.
156 449 (13Jun) and 465 (1 May) are a Eastleigh dates shown.
Re Portabrook I have 323 223, 224, 225, 231, 237 of which 225 (23May), 231 (27Jun), 237 (25Jul) are all at Wolverton dates shown.
Anyone update.
Thanks
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superkev said:
Re Remaining units still to PRM.
Not sure if I'm upto date but of Notherns Angel trains fleet I have just 156 447, 449, 465, 485 (all ex Scòtrail) to PRM.
156 449 (13Jun) and 465 (1 May) are a Eastleigh dates shown.
Re Portabrook I have 323 223, 224, 225, 231, 237 of which 225 (23May), 231 (27Jun), 237 (25Jul) are all at Wolverton dates shown.
Anyone update.
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I’m pretty sure 465’s been PRM’d - I think it left Eastleigh recently for Heaton.
 
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How come some of the Northern units refurbished (notably the 158s) didn’t have cab lighting upgrades as with other operators?
 
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Only a few STP schedules for 08/08 so far

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150001 on the move?
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150002 is at Crewe been transformed into a Northern unit and 150001 is going on the 8th August for the same
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Neither by the looks of it. 0641 off Neville Hill is 150214

0905 off Newton Heath is showing 156423 and 156466
 
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WTT 0259 Newton Heath - Wolverton has run

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0905 Newton Heath - Wolverton STP is running

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0641 Neville Hill - Crewe is running

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WTT 0259 Newton Heath - Wolverton has run

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0905 Newton Heath - Wolverton STP is running

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0641 Neville Hill - Crewe is running

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Re NH to Wolcerton. Strange sending 2 separate trains that presumably could couple together. As 156 423 and 156 466 have already had the full monty presumably warrenty or outstanding work.
Re NL to Crewe LNWR 150 214 is an Angel unit so prob CET tank work. Perhaps theve finished the NH ones.
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superkev said:
Re NH to Wolcerton. Strange sending 2 separate trains that presumably could couple together. As 156 423 and 156 466 have already had the full monty presumably warrenty or outstanding work.
Re NL to Crewe LNWR 150 214 is an Angel unit so prob CET tank work. Perhaps theve finished the NH ones.
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Hopefully 214 will gain the new seat covers whilst at Crewe
 
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Angel trains seems to be well behind Portabrook with the Northern refurb program.
Re Angel 150/1s I have with prob few errors:-
150 110, 111, 113, 114, 115, 117, 118, 121, 122, 127, 128, 129, 131, 135, 148 as still needing some version of interior refresh. Of these I have 148 (1Aug) in Crewe LNWR works.
Anyone confirm.
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superkev said:
Angel trains seems to be well behind Portabrook with the Northern refurb program.
Re Angel 150/1s I have with prob few errors:-
150 110, 111, 113, 114, 115, 117, 118, 121, 122, 127, 128, 129, 131, 135, 148 as still needing some version of interior refresh. Of these I have 113, 131 (18Apr), 148 (1Aug) in Crewe LNWR works.
Anyone confirm.
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Probably because Angel own a hell of a lot more of the fleet than Porterbrook.
 
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superkev said:
Angel trains seems to be well behind Portabrook with the Northern refurb program.
Re Angel 150/1s I have with prob few errors:-
150 110, 111, 113, 114, 115, 117, 118, 121, 122, 127, 128, 129, 131, 135, 148 as still needing some version of interior refresh. Of these I have 113, 131 (18Apr), 148 (1Aug) in Crewe LNWR works.
Anyone confirm.
K
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See below for updated list, 113 and 131 have been back for a long time, 148 went down last week and didn't come back today so I would expect will reappear properly refurbished next week. It also depends on what you class as still needing refresh, anything with purple seat covers I'd still consider outstanding.

Updated lists 08/08/20, corrections welcome.

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Liveries

Northern livery with logos
Unbranded Northern livery
Old Serco-Abellio Northern purple
Unbranded First Scotrail Barbie
Unbranded First Great Western Blue
Unbranded Great Western Railway Green
158860 has thank you NHS livery

Units in italic are not PRM compliant but have received dispensation
# – Digital Train Modifications complete (USB, CCTV, additional PIS screens)
NCM - Northern Connect Mods (Seat reservations)
FGW – First Great Western
Prototype refurbishment – light blue seat backs, Arriva turquoise grab poles, cream coloured end walls


150001 - Unrefurbished, GWR moquette Ashbourne seats
150002 - Unrefurbished, GWR moquette Ashbourne seats (in works, Crewe)

150101 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150102 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150103 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150104 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150105 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150106 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150107 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150108 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150109 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150110 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150111 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150112 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150113 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150114 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150115 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150116 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150117 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150118 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150119 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150120 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150121 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
150122 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
150123 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150124 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150125 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150126 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150127 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
150128 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
150129 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
150130 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150131 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
150132 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150133 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150134 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150135 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150136 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150137 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150138 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150139 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150140 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150141 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150142 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150143 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150144 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150145 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150146 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150147 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150148 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats (in works, Crewe)
150149 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150150 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats

150120, 123, 130 retain Silverlink NSE blue wall carpet
150136 has several rows of seats in airline layout

150201 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150203 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150204 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150205 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150206 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150209 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats (no toilet)
150210 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150211 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150214 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150215 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150218 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 150220 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150222 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150223 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150224 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150225 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150226 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150228 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150268 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats (in works, Doncaster)
# 150269 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150270 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
# 150271 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150272 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
# 150273 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150274 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
# 150275 – Refurbished (prototype style), new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150276 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150277 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats

150205 has a row of seats that were incorrectly fitted in a bay layout on refurb

155341 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
155342 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
155343 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
155344 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
155345 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
155346 - Refurbished (prototype style), new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
155347 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats

# 156420 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 156421 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156423 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 156424 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 156425 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156426 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156427 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 156428 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156429 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156438 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156440 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156441 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156443 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats (in works, Holbeck)
156444 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156447 - Unrefurbished, old First purple moquette Ashbourne seats
156448 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156449 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats (in works, Eastleigh)
# 156451 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156452 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
156454 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156455 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156459 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156460 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156461 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156463 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156464 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156465 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats (in works, Eastleigh)
# 156466 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
156468 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156469 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156471 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156472 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156475 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156479 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156480 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156481 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156482 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156483 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156484 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156485 - Unrefurbished, old First purple moquette Ashbourne seats
156486 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156487 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156488 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156489 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156490 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156491 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156496 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats

Refurbished 156 units with Richmond seats but old purple moquette seats (and 156468/156489) retain floor carpet, this is replaced during work at Holbeck

158752 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
158753 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
158754 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats (in works, Holbeck)
158755 - Refurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158756 - Refurbished (prototype style), dark blue moquette MTB seats
158757 - Refurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158758 - Refurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158759 - Refurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats

158782 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158784 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158786 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158787 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158789 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158790 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158791 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158792 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158793 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158794 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158795 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158796 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158797 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158815 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats (in works, Bristol Barton Hill)
158816 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158817 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158842 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
158843 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
158844 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats (in works, Crewe)
# 158845 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats, NCM complete
158848 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158849 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats, NCM complete
158850 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158851 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158853 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158855 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158859 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158860 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158861 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158867 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158868 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158869 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158870 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158871 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158872 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats

158901 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158902 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158903 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158904 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158905 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158906 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158907 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158908 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158909 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158910 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats

158752 and 158756 have cream coloured end walls instead of navy blue

158752-759, 782, 786, 789, 867-871 retain the parcels cupboard in the 57 end vehicle

# 170453 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170454 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170455 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170456 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170457 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170458 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170459 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170460 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170461 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170472 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170473 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170474 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170475 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170476 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170477 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170478 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats

170453-458 retain an old first class section (declassified) at each end of the train

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Liveries

Northern livery with logos
Unbranded Northern livery
Old Serco-Abellio Northern purple
Unbranded Thameslink White/Blue

FCC - First Capital Connect
Units not in bold are now off lease
Units in italic are not PRM compliant but have received dispensation (except 319373)

319361 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319362 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319363 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319364 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319365 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319366 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319367 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319368 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319369 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319370 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
319371 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319372 – unrefurbished, FCC moquette seats and interior
319373 – unrefurbished, FCC moquette seats and interior
319374 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319375 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319376 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319377 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319378 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319379 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319380 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319381 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
319382 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319383 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319384 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
319385 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
319386 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319446 – unrefurbished, FCC moquette seats and interior

769424 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
769431 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
769434 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
769442 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
769448 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
769450 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
769456 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
769458 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats

319367 has additional PIS screens fitted although never used
319446 and all Northern 769s retain a declassified first class section

323223 – unrefurbished, old purple moquette seats
323224 – unrefurbished, old purple moquette seats
323225 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats (in works, Wolverton)
323226 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323227 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323228 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323229 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323230 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323231 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats (in works, Wolverton)
323232 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323233 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323234 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323235 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323236 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323237 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats (in works, Wolverton)
323238 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323239 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats

333001 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333002 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333003 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333004 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333005 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333006 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333007 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333008 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333009 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333010 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333011 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333012 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333013 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333014 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333015 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333016 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
 
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superkev said:
Re NH to Wolcerton. Strange sending 2 separate trains that presumably could couple together. As 156 423 and 156 466 have already had the full monty presumably warrenty or outstanding work.
Re NL to Crewe LNWR 150 214 is an Angel unit so prob CET tank work. Perhaps theve finished the NH ones.
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Wolcerton? Spelling error?
 
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