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WVL14 said:
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0259 NH - Wolverton 150143
0808 Wolverton - NH 150142

STP runners
5N31 0940 Wolverton - NH 156 156452
5B31 1014 Crewe - NH 150/1 150135
5E14 1016 Barton Hill - HT 158 158842

STP caped
5E12 0917 Crewe - HT

New one appeared: 1405 NH-Wolverton 156420

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150 135 went to Crewe on 27th Sep. Wonder if it's just got its CET tank or interior refurb and extetior repaint.
I supect the already refurbished 150s and 156s going to and from Wolverton are warrenty work or wifi perhaps.
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5B42 1302 NH - Crewe dep 1252
5H70 1405 NH - Wolverton dep 1335

5N42 1551 Heaton - Crewe caped.

150135 in new Northern livery.
 
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Currently sat on a 3 carriage 158.

The seats have been reupholstered in moquette and the hand drier in the toilet has been replaced with a paper towell dispenser.

This is the refurbishment that all the 158's should have had.
 
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yorksrob said:
Currently sat on a 3 carriage 158.

The seats have been reupholstered in moquette and the hand drier in the toilet has been replaced with a paper towell dispenser.

This is the refurbishment that all the 158's should have had.
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The paper towels will be in the middle coach only, this was done by Northern Spirit and never changed back by Northern, the end cars will still have hand driers.

150124 noted last night with moquette seat covers. I'll update the list tomorrow once we know what has and hasn't run.
 
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158757 said:
The paper towels will be in the middle coach only, this was done by Northern Spirit and never changed back by Northern, the end cars will still have hand driers.

150124 noted last night with moquette seat covers. I'll update the list tomorrow once we know what has and hasn't run.
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Should have been done to all of them. Those hand driers have never worked.
 
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superkev said:
Interesting to see which of Neville Hills 158s goes to Bristol Barton tomorrow Sun.
I have 158 791 and 158 872 as the only NL 158s not yet refurbished.

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Both 791/872 have been in the North East in the last week. Running on Saltburn/Bishop Auk services.
 
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It must be a coincidence that all the Chapman seated Northern 158s have been done at Bristol. These being 815-7/42/3 and possibly 872 now. Wonder what Bristol needs them particular seats for?
 
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Updated lists 04/10/20, corrections welcome. Now down to 3 150/1's and 4 158's in purple. Any ID on todays Holbeck 156 runs are appreciated.

Liveries

Northern livery with logos
Unbranded Northern livery
Old Serco-Abellio Northern purple
Unbranded First Scotrail Barbie
Unbranded First Great Western Blue

Units in italic are not PRM compliant but have received dispensation
# – Digital Train Modifications complete (USB, CCTV, additional PIS screens)
# - Northern Connect Mods (Seat reservations)
Prototype refurbishment – light blue seat backs, Arriva turquoise grab poles, cream coloured end walls

150001 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150002 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats

# 150101 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150102 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150103 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150104 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150105 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150106 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150107 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150108 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150109 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150110 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150111 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150112 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150113 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats (in works, Crewe)
150114 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats (in works, Crewe)
150115 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150116 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150117 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150118 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150119 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150120 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150121 - Unrefurbished, First Great Western moquette Ashbourne seats
150122 - Unrefurbished, First Great Western moquette Ashbourne seats
150123 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150124 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150125 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150126 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150127 - Unrefurbished, First Great Western moquette Ashbourne seats
150128 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150129 - Unrefurbished, First Great Western moquette Ashbourne seats
150130 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150131 - Unrefurbished, First Great Western moquette Ashbourne seats
150132 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150133 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150134 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150135 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150136 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150137 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150138 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150139 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150140 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150141 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150142 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150143 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150144 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150145 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150146 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150147 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150148 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150149 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150150 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats

150120, 123, 128, 130 retain Silverlink NSE blue wall carpet
150136 has several rows of seats in airline layout

150201 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150203 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150204 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150205 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150206 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150209 - Unrefurbished, First Great Western moquette Ashbourne seats (no toilet)
150210 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150211 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150214 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150215 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150218 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 150220 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150222 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150223 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150224 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150225 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150226 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150228 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150268 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150269 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150270 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
# 150271 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150272 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
# 150273 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150274 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
# 150275 – Refurbished (prototype style), new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150276 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150277 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats

150205 has a row of seats that were incorrectly fitted in a bay layout on refurb

155341 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
155342 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
155343 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
155344 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
155345 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
155346 - Refurbished (prototype style), new blue moquette Chapman seats
155347 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats

# 156420 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 156421 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156423 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156424 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156425 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156426 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156427 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156428 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156429 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156438 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156440 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156441 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156443 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156444 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156447 - Unrefurbished, old First purple moquette Ashbourne seats
156448 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156449 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats (in works, Eastleigh)
# 156451 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156452 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
156454 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156455 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156459 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156460 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156461 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156463 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156464 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156465 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 156466 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156468 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156469 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats (in works, Holbeck)
156471 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156472 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156475 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156479 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156480 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats (RAF 100 vinyls)
156481 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156482 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156483 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156484 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156485 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats (in works, Eastleigh)
156486 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156487 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156488 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156489 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156490 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156491 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156496 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats

Refurbished 156 units with Richmond seats but old purple moquette seats (and 156468/156489) retain floor carpet, this is replaced during work at Holbeck

158752 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
158753 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
158754 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
158755 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
158756 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
158757 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
158758 - Refurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158759 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats (in works, Holbeck)

158782 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158784 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158786 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158787 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158789 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158790 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158791 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158792 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158793 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158794 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158795 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158796 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158797 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158815 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158816 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158817 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158842 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158843 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158844 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
## 158845 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158848 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
## 158849 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158850 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158851 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158853 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats (in works, Crewe)
158855 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158859 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158860 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats (Thank you NHS vinyls)
158861 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158867 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158868 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158869 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158870 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158871 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158872 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats (in works, Bristol Barton Hill)

158901 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158902 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158903 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158904 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158905 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158906 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158907 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158908 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158909 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158910 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats

158752 and 158756 have cream coloured end walls instead of navy blue

158752-759, 782, 786, 789, 867-871 retain the parcels cupboard in the 57 end vehicle

# 170453 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170454 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170455 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170456 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170457 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170458 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170459 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170460 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170461 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170472 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170473 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170474 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170475 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170476 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170477 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170478 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats

170453-458 retain an old first class section (declassified) at each end of the train

Key

Liveries

Northern livery with logos
Unbranded Thameslink White/Blue

319361 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319366 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319367 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319368 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319369 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319370 – refurbished, First Capital Connect moquette seats
319372 – unrefurbished, FCC moquette seats and interior
319375 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319378 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319379 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319381 – refurbished, First Capital Connect moquette seats
319383 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319384 – refurbished, First Capital Connect moquette seats
319385 – refurbished, First Capital Connect moquette seats
319386 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats

769424 – refurbished, First Capital Connect moquette seats
769431 – refurbished, First Capital Connect moquette seats
769434 – refurbished, First Capital Connect moquette seats
769442 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
769448 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
769450 – refurbished, First Capital Connect moquette seats
769456 – refurbished, First Capital Connect moquette seats
769458 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats

319367 has additional PIS screens fitted although never used
All Northern 769s retain a declassified first class section

323223 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats (in works, Wolverton)
323224 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats (in works, Wolverton)
323225 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323226 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323227 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323228 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323229 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323230 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323231 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323232 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323233 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323234 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323235 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323236 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323237 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323238 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323239 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats

333001 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333002 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333003 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333004 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333005 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333006 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333007 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333008 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333009 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333010 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333011 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333012 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333013 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333014 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333015 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333016 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
 
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Dan15812 said:
Been confirmed, 158872 is on the run to Bristol today.
Hope that helps!
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Do GWR still have any 150/2s with the 3x2 Asbourne seats? Perhaps they want the Chapmans to create a standard interior for the class, unlike Northern.
 
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So 156s needing new cushions and floors are, 156 448/75/79/81/90 and 91. However 156 468/89 have new seat covers but still have carpet and unpainted seat backs.
 
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So it's a game of Spot the Purple units then.

Have to admit that livery wasn't the best even in the 00s and was dreadful by the mid-10s when Arriva took over and fortunately started repainting them.
 
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Do any units still have the original 'N' coloured circle before the brighter more colourful circles were used ?
 
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Jamesrob637 said:
So it's a game of Spot the Purple units then.

Have to admit that livery wasn't the best even in the 00s and was dreadful by the mid-10s when Arriva took over and fortunately started repainting them.
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Totally agreed.

I found that the Purple livery was too dark. I am glad that, when DfT took-over from Arriva, that they kept the livery introduced by Arriva, which is much brighter.
 
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D2007wsm said:
Do GWR still have any 150/2s with the 3x2 Asbourne seats? Perhaps they want the Chapmans to create a standard interior for the class, unlike Northern.
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GWR have 2 units with Ashbourne seats but they won't be changed, there's already been 5 158's go down to Bristol which is more than enough to change 3 150's. ISTR the reason they can't change them is because DfT wouldn't be happy with the reduced number of seats.

simon7929 said:
So 156s needing new cushions and floors are, 156 448/75/79/81/90 and 91. However 156 468/89 have new seat covers but still have carpet and unpainted seat backs.
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That's what I make it although I don't know what ran from Heaton yesterday. 156451 never had it's seat backs painted either so it'll be interesting to see if that goes down for the work as I believe the flooring was changed when the digital train mods were done.

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Do any units still have the original 'N' coloured circle before the brighter more colourful circles were used ?
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Is that the one with the pink N instead of the yellow? I think a couple of Heaton 156's might still have it, but I think everything else has been changed.

Pit_buzzer said:
150 205 was in doncaster on thursday with blue moquette seats
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Thanks, I wonder if they've swapped that bay of incorrectly fitted seats back round so you can actually sit down in them!
 
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Thanks, I wonder if they've swapped that bay of incorrectly fitted seats back round so you can actually sit down in them!
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I wondered that too but it escaped before i could check
 
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I think 156451 did get the seats painted. But they are a light shade of Grey and not Black like the other Angel units that have followed.
 
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Saw 158842 earlier and noticed it hasn't got the Northern stickers but still has the logo. Potentially a sign the new capitalised logo will be used going forwards?
 
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northernchris said:
Saw 158842 earlier and noticed it hasn't got the Northern stickers but still has the logo. Potentially a sign the new capitalised logo will be used going forwards?
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Parts of the website have switched to the capitals logo too, the help and media portions. Looks like a slow transition to it. If the trains are to get it then we would probably see the ones currently in for refurbishment coming out with them?
 
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