Northern Unit Refurbishments

[brel york]

150 203 is not now moving tomorrow

 

[brel york]

Lol move is back on for 203

 

[jonesy3001]

whats next on repaint job then?

 

[brel york]

150 144 goes to wabtec sat afternoon if 150 203 gets delivered

 

[507021]

150 144 goes to wabtec sat afternoon if 150 203 gets delivered

As ever, thanks for your extremely useful updates.

 

[absolutelymilk]

Just got on 156451 and 156489, they are both in the new livery and looking pretty dirty, hope they get a good wash soon! The perils of a white colour scheme....

 

[brel york]

As ever, thanks for your extremely useful updates.

My pleasure , any pictures etc just let me know

 

[1D53]

155345 is back on Neville Hill.

 

[Lemmy99uk]

Is it likely the 2 ex Scotrail 158s will be pressed in to service straightaway?

Unlikely. They are needed for traction training at various depots, starting with Barrow and so will probably not be pressed into service straight away.

 

[M1544]

155345 is back on Neville Hill.

155345 arrived back early December as I saw it pass through Leeds enroute but just hasn’t gone back into passenger service since getting back as yet. It’s mentioned somewhere earlier in the thread.

 

[LOL The Irony]

Just got on 156451 and 156489, they are both in the new livery and looking pretty dirty, hope they get a good wash soon! The perils of a white colour scheme....

I was on a 156 to Preston on the 27th. It had the everyday sort of grime when it arrived at Piccadilly. I thought it was getting dirtier and dirtier as we got closer to Preston. When I got off, the whole side up to about half a foot below the windows was orange. I saw another culprit at Deansgate a few weeks prior.

 

[superkev]

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Unlikely. They are needed for traction training at various depots, starting with Barrow and so will probably not be pressed into service straight away.

Interesting to note 870/1and the other 6 due from scotrail are of the more powerfully 400hp type joining northerns solitary 400hp one 872.
I wonder if Northern will allocate them to a hilly route like the s and c to make use of the 50 extra horses.
I suspect the people who do timetables/ allocations don't know there's a difference.
K

 

[brel york]

150 203 has left for newton heath

 

[ash39]

Yes it has, dropped lucky this morning and had a 14 minute change at Hebden Bridge and it passed through whilst I was there. Surprised to see it unbranded, guess Northern apply the logos themselves?

 

[brel york]

Yeah , it was a bit late leaving donny , should have been leaving west yard at 8 , driver came and drove it out of workshop I’m sure he’s bringing 150 144 back

 

[ash39]

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97553/2018/01/06/advanced

I expect that'll be it, if it runs. Anyone wanting a last photo of 150144 in mucky purple, there's your chance!

 

[brel york]

It better run we are inspecting it tomorrow

 

[superkev]

150 144 at sowerby bridge on way to Doncaster works 12.46

 

[driver_m]

I was on a 156 to Preston on the 27th. It had the everyday sort of grime when it arrived at Piccadilly. I thought it was getting dirtier and dirtier as we got closer to Preston. When I got off, the whole side up to about half a foot below the windows was orange. I saw another culprit at Deansgate a few weeks prior.

There was a full line up of white and silver trains this morning, at lime st all looking filthy apart from the London Midland and TPE which were pretty clean. Even ours was grubby which is unusual. Have all the washers been turned off because of the cold weather? I know the edge hill one is working but are the others? Allerton one clearly isn't, or not being used.

 

[brel york]

Just before it left ,

At sowerby bridge 12.46View attachment 41247

 

[Rail Blues]

Just got on 156451 and 156489, they are both in the new livery and looking pretty dirty, hope they get a good wash soon! The perils of a white colour scheme....

That's dirtier than Leeds United.

I wonder what genius thought 'hmm a region known for its inhospitable climate, I know what'll work well, especially in winter ... predominantly white trains.'

To customers it creates a terrible first impression: a filthy train rolling up, screams, "we are a bunch of half arsed amateurs who don't care about the standard of service we provide."

 

[driver_m]

That's dirtier than Leeds United.

I wonder what genius thought 'hmm a region known for its inhospitable climate, I know what'll work well, especially in winter ... predominantly white trains.'

To customers it creates a terrible first impression: a filthy train rolling up, screams, "we are a bunch of half arsed amateurs who don't care about the standard of service we provide."

It is a bad look. Leccy units are normally fairly clean, but I'm surprised at just how dirty these 319s look already, even the ones that have been fully tarted up.

 

[Rail Blues]

There was a full line up of white and silver trains this morning, at lime st all looking filthy apart from the London Midland and TPE which were pretty clean. Even ours was grubby which is unusual. Have all the washers been turned off because of the cold weather? I know the edge hill one is working but are the others? Allerton one clearly isn't, or not being used.

Generally, how often will a unit go through the washer?

 

[LOL The Irony]

Generally, how often will a unit go through the washer?

Depends on the company. If they value their brand it'll be washed every day.

 

[507021]

Depends on the company. If they value their brand it'll be washed every day.

I don't think it would be remotely possible to wash that many units every single night of the year...

 

[darloscott]

Depends on the company. If they value their brand it'll be washed every day.

Too many of Northern’s units are outstationed away from depots overnight to make a white livery work

 

[brel york]

cam pics 2010 may 012

• brel york
• 8 Feb 2011

some of the 150s have corrosion holes low down on the body side especially around the three pillars either side of the door portal pillar,decals over old paint hides a multitude of sins , the shot blaster soon finds them , we had a 150/2 with 45 holes in the roof , kilmarnock put a full roof on one of the cars on the second unit they did

 

[brel york]

Sorry about the 508 pic , wrong one lol

 

[Geeves]

156443 made it to Glasgow today and looked pretty clean in the new livery! The reason why there are some dirty trains around is because the wash plants do not work below 5c so as not to damage the equipment. December and January always sees a large selection of dirty units.

I was in London recently and I saw lots of dirty looking (brand new) 700s. so its not just Northern.

 

[driver_m]

Generally, how often will a unit go through the washer?

Our pendos usually go through daily if they go on a depot. Longsight and Edge Hill both usually put the sets through before stabling. Other depots likely to be a similar process.