Northern Unit Refurbishments

[158752]

This could go some way to help justify why First North Western didn't see fit to make further alteration to the class 156 fleet whilst under their franchise term. A mere 8 years after initially being attended to could've seemed like unjustifiably unnecessary expense.
http://dysgraphyk.madasafish.com/156/class156nw.htm

 

[Liverpool 507]

Do you mean externally or internally? There is a franchise requirement to switch to more energy efficient LED lighting on trains.

Externally (Head Lights).

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Externally (Head Lights).

Then to answer your initial question, the headlights will be replaced as the units pass through Brodies for refurbishment... so no, the unrefurbished units won't receive new light clusters until they have everything else replaced too.

 

[Charlie150275]

Does anyone have the full list of Northern Destination Codes for the class 158? Thank you

 

[brel york]

No but I have some destination blinds lol

 

[61653 HTAFC]

No but I have some destination blinds lol

For a 158? Isn't that just a box full of LEDs at this point?

 

[brel york]

Lol sorry I meant for the 150s

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Lol sorry I meant for the 150s

Wondered if it might've been a maintenance staff in-joke!

 

[brel york]

Lol we have fitted the wrong control units before, both gwr and northern under same part number

 

[Crossforth]

No but I have some destination blinds lol

That really would be a great piece of memorabilia. Are they for sale? :P

 

[brel york]

They might be yes

 

[brel york]

What’s happened here then lol

 

[pemma]

There's a thread on the 150 incident at Leeds here: https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/train-uncoupled-at-leeds.160428/

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Currently on 155345 on a Huddersfield to Leeds service. Toilet out of order.

The brakes also sounded... very peculiar, in a "Fingernails down the blackboard" sort of way.

 

[978wta]

Are Northern going to keep their 153s, if so what are the plans for them?

 

[LOL The Irony]

Are Northern going to keep their 153s, if so what are the plans for them?

They're getting rid.

 

[brel york]

There going to be missed

 

[Danor97]

Is there any way a 153 could be sandwiched between a PRM compliant 155 set?

 

[MG11]

They're getting rid.

Do you know if they'll be scrapped or cascaded or stored at all please?

 

[507021]

Do you know if they'll be scrapped or cascaded or stored at all please?

I can't see a long term future for them, so I expect they will be scrapped.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Is there any way a 153 could be sandwiched between a PRM compliant 155 set?

I assume they could, if the operators and owners wanted to. Given the total number of Leyland super-sprinter vehicles (84), I always felt that making the whole lot into 3-car units would've been a good use of them. One problem with that is the splitting of the 153s between two different ROSCOs.

 

[LOL The Irony]

Do you know if they'll be scrapped or cascaded or stored at all please?

Probably the scrap heap or storage.

 

[xotGD]

Is there any way a 153 could be sandwiched between a PRM compliant 155 set?

Why put it in the middle? Why not just tag it on the end like they do now?

 

[43096]

Do you know if they'll be scrapped or cascaded or stored at all please?

At the moment there are no plans to do PRM mods on any 153s from any operator. So as it stands they all have to be out of service by midnight on 31/12/19.

 

[TEW]

Is there any way a 153 could be sandwiched between a PRM compliant 155 set?

The 153 would still require modifications. It isn't just about the toilet.

 

[brel york]

Wouldn’t need a lot though , the toilet is the biggest expense

 

[Grannyjoans]

Northern are set to get rid of the following stock by the end of 2019:

142
144
153
37 + MK2s
185
323


In the case of the first four they want to get rid of it. In the case of the last two they'd rather keep it but have been forced to give it up.
Incidentally 142 153 and 37 are very unpopular with drivers. All the Barrow Drivers really hate 37s and none of them are enthusiasts. Whenever I'm up there it's the same old story I'm sick of hearing them moaning about them saying the same old crap and I wish my depot signed them. I'm sure they've just taught themselves to hate the locos.
185s are the most popular by far by the ex TPE drivers who say they're better than the other stock by a very long way.

 

[507021]

142
144
153
37 + MK2s
185
323.

And the 321s and 322s.

 

[Agent_Squash]

Northern are set to get rid of the following stock by the end of 2019:

142
144
153
37 + MK2s
185
323


In the case of the first four they want to get rid of it. In the case of the last two they'd rather keep it but have been forced to give it up.
Incidentally 142 153 and 37 are very unpopular with drivers. All the Barrow Drivers really hate 37s and none of them are enthusiasts. Whenever I'm up there it's the same old story I'm sick of hearing them moaning about them saying the same old crap and I wish my depot signed them. I'm sure they've just taught themselves to hate the locos.
185s are the most popular by far by the ex TPE drivers who say they're better than the other stock by a very long way.

I'm sure Porterbrook wouldn't mind giving Northern 323s instead of 319s as WMT don't want them, while the 185s may be a fit for the 170-equivalents Northern is required to have by 2022.

 

[LOL The Irony]

I'm sure Porterbrook wouldn't mind giving Northern 323s instead of 319s as WMT don't want them, while the 185s may be a fit for the 170-equivalents Northern is required to have by 2022.

Fit the 323's with the ironing boards on steroids in 2X2 social layout like the FNW 150's and they'd be almost perfect.