It had an interior like this one (not my photo) https://flic.kr/p/HoNo9B
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Northern Unit Refurbishments
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61653 HTAFC
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Compared to some of the seats seen in new stock, they look brilliant... not that that's saying much!
I'm less keen on the choice of seat fabric, as the same stuff is already looking threadbare on some of the 150s.
jonesy3001
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Looking at the pics in the sprinter group on facebook they have fold down tables
Bletchleyite
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The supports for the tables are visible on the photos linked to on the previous page. Those familiar with "ironing board" seats will be able to see they are present.
Look on the interior photos shown and move photos to the right. I can see fold down tables there.
superkev
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I wonder if my knees will fit without jamming against the seat in front or interlaced with the person opposite as the unrefurbished ones.
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northernchris
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Had a ride on 158845 today, it looks very smart and look forward to the rest of the 158 fleet being brought up to standard. The seats aren't as comfortable as the originals, but still adequate and the legroom seemed more generous than before. I must admit I didn't notice the fold down tables, but that doesn't mean they weren't any!
158845 is also fitted with electronic seat reservation screens which can be seen in the interior pic below
https://www.flickr.com/photos/railphotosonline/44800467001/in/dateposted/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/railphotosonline/44800467001/in/dateposted/
tommy_train
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Thanks.
The new interior looks a lot better. I have travelled on a 158 with that interior before, and I did not have any complaints, but the seats were certainly tired.
jw
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Surprised it was not fitted with LED marker and headlights.
SugrFr33
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And the internal destination display seems to be a dot matrix rather than the blue and green/yellow
Would have been nice if they’d tidied up the front gangway and the under floor equipment boxes as well considering this is being photographed as the launch train.
Bletchleyite
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Interestingly GWR have kept the original seats with new cushions on some of theirs, and despite being quite thick cushions they are rock hard.
Killingworth
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This was on a 150/1 on the Hope Valley line when we found how little leg room there is for 3 6 footers facing each other, with a 5 footer in between making it possible.
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61653 HTAFC
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They look a bit like the ones on ICE3s. Had forgotten that "new" Northern were bringing seat reservations in for Connect services. Would've thought that a different seat fabric (maybe even moquette) would be part of the Connect "premium" thing.
61653 HTAFC
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Not that the legroom is being improved, but that's an unrefurbished set. It is hard to tell with the 150s though!
I'm of the understanding that the Northern Connect franchise specification customer information screens and electronic seat reservation will be added/made to work in the near future. The LED screens shown will simply have been to make the unit ready for service, after all we are all too aware of Northern's DMU fleet being overstretched owing to events out of their control.
No more has come of the chat on here of FAINSA seats going into 156's. Has this plan been dropped or was it just forum speculation in the first place?
No more has come of the chat on here of FAINSA seats going into 156's. Has this plan been dropped or was it just forum speculation in the first place?
jonesy3001
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319373 has moved to allerton from wolverton
Monty43048
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170472 has now been repainted into the new livery
https://www.flickr.com/photos/141281212@N07/29911185747
https://www.flickr.com/photos/141281212@N07/29911185747
Northern's refurbishments are pretty poor. I've been on refurbished 156s with huge leakages between carriage vestibules. I'm not a regular viewer but I was watching Question Time the other day from Dewsbury and even the panellists describe the Northern service as "complete rubbish".
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...orthern-railway-wigan-wallgate-train-15180630
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...orthern-railway-wigan-wallgate-train-15180630
MatthewRead
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That looked like the inside of a Pacer
LOL The Irony
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There's always been about 1 or 2 Northern 156's with leaking internal gangways.
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I'm not so sure about the black panelling..It could look dated very quickly.
Strictly speaking there aren't any refurbished units except 158845 (there's also the issue of 170476 but we don't really know about that one for sure). The other units have merely been modified. They will need to go back.
Earlier this year, I travelled on a 156 from Carlisle to Newcastle which had a massive leak from the window, to the point where half a dozen people moved to the next carriage to get away from it.
Really like the northern 158s
I'm not interested in the LED gimmicks, seat reservations etc, but the unit looks bright and smart. Northern really need to focus on providing basic simple clean smart interiors that can be kept that way.
The problem with the 158 will be how long northern can keep it like that!
I'm not interested in the LED gimmicks, seat reservations etc, but the unit looks bright and smart. Northern really need to focus on providing basic simple clean smart interiors that can be kept that way.
The problem with the 158 will be how long northern can keep it like that!
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LOL The Irony
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The seats will have made it age several years by the end of the month.
59CosG95
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Anyone know if either 319372 or 319373 are due to receive a refurbishment (and if so, when)?
Is this true? So the 150s/156s/158s as well as the 319s will all be modernised in the coming years? Have the lack of available diesel units prevented this process to date as it requires to temporarily take trains out of service to modernise?
They've been given a deep clean - but "refurbishment" is pushing it. "As new" modernisation? Definitely not!