Not the next station

[Track Basher]

This is a simple question.

How many stations can you think of that are next to each other but do not have a direct train. In other words you can go from one to the other without passing through any other station. The direct train does not have to go by the direct route.

Two that are next to each other are Briton Ferry and Llangennech (if you go via the Swansea District). These do have a direct train but via Swansea so is not allowed.

Ninian Park to Pontyclun is allowed it is possible to go between the two without passing through another station but there is no direct service.

 

[clagmonster]

Fairfield and Gorton.

How about Burnley Manchester Road and Rose Grove also?

 

[steamybrian]

Chathill and Berwick-on-Tweed
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Chislehurst and St Mary Cray

 

[Track Basher]

Those look good. There are quite a few more.

 

[judethegreat]

Reading West to Tilehurst.
Severn Tunnel Junction to Cwmbran.
Newport to whatever the first stop on the Ebbw Vale line is (what's that all about?).

 

[clagmonster]

Are we allowed to use freight only curves?

 

[steamybrian]

Shepherds Bush to Wembley Central

South Ruislip to Paddington

Bedwyn to Pewsey

 

[judethegreat]

Shepherds Bush to Wembley Central

I thought the Southern services call at Wembley Central?

 

[Track Basher]

Are we allowed to use freight only curves?

Yes.....

 

[Eagle]

Shepherds Bush to Wembley Central

Every Southern train does this.

Bedwyn to Pewsey

Happens several times a day I'm afraid, and has done since FGW and FGWL merged in 2006.

 

[steamybrian]

You are correct Southern trains do call at Wembley Central.
I was unsure about Bedwyn-Pewsey.
South Ruislip-Paddington..??????????????

 

[Eagle]

Syston to Melton, and Sileby to Melton

Acton Bridge to Warrington Bank Quay

Eccles to Deansgate

Hamstead to Birmingham New Street (via Soho)

Wilnecote to Water Orton (but not vice versa)

 

[clagmonster]

Barnetby-Ulceby
Hessle-Cottingham
Outwood-Woodlesford
Shipley-Woodlesford
Guisley-Woodlesford
Bramley-Woodlesford
Carnforth-Bare Lane
Littlehampton-Arundal

 

[Harlesden]

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[Eagle]

Ninian Park to Pontyclun is allowed it is possible to go between the two without passing through another station but there is no direct service.

I'd say it isn't allowed, because the platforms at Ninian Park are not on the mainline, so a train can't pass through both sets of platforms.

Another one like this is Bethnal Green to Stratford, and Carnforth to Oxenholme (both only have platforms on the branch).

 

[clagmonster]

Hatfield & Stainforth-Adwick
Finsbury Park-Bethnal Green

 

[Eagle]

Gainsborough Central and Gainsborough Lea Road

Are not next to each other. The line forks and one station is on each line.

 

[judethegreat]

Appleford-Swindon
Pen Mill-Junction
Rosyth-Dalgety Bay
Dalston(Cumbria)-Wetherall/Armathwaite
Shepherds Bush-ActonML/Central
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Finsbury Park-Bethnal Green

By which route? There are two curves involved, but several stations..

 

[steamybrian]

Littlehampton-Arundal

0632 SX Victoria-Chichester calls at both.

 

[clagmonster]

By which route? There are two curves involved, but several stations..

True. Separate entries:
Finsbury Park-Canonbury,
Dalston Kingsland-London Fields.
Hackney Wick-Liverpool St.
Cannon St-Waterloo East
Tulse Hill-Streatham Hill (in this direction only)
South Milford-Doncaster (via the Selby Canal curve)
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0632 SX Victoria-Chichester calls at both.

In that case, Littlehampton-Arundal is valid in that direction only.

 

[steamybrian]

Bedhampton-Cosham -Most trains run fast Havant-Cosham.

 

[LE Greys]

If we're talking freight-only curves, Manea-Shippea Hill/Downham Market, since it is possible to get between the two while avoiding Ely, but all passenger trains reverse in the station.
Salhouse/Brundall Gardens-Diss might also count, if you allow for the curve at Crown Point.

 

[gnolife]

Would Moston and Ashton count? (I think that theres a curve around there somewhere)

 

[steamybrian]

Elsenham and Stansted Airport

 

[Track Basher]

I'd say it isn't allowed, because the platforms at Ninian Park are not on the mainline, so a train can't pass through both sets of platforms.

Another one like this is Bethnal Green to Stratford, and Carnforth to Oxenholme (both only have platforms on the branch).

It is allowed as there is a chord at Leckwith that rejoins the mainline west of Cardiff Canton.

 

[Anon Mouse]

Regent Centre and Longbenton on the Tyne & Wear Metro

 

[steamybrian]

Cardross and Helensburgh Upper
(The platform at Craigendoran on the West Highland line is disused)

Maryhill and Westerton

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Would Moston and Ashton count? (I think that theres a curve around there somewhere)

Indeed there is and coming from the Moston direction, Brewery Junction is on the left hand side, just before the former Miles Platting station, and this was built in 1906 by the Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway. I think that Newton Heath depot would find this useful to get stock to the Stalybridge area.

I have used this junction just once in 1982 on one of the many special trains that British Rail ran for the Manchester Rail Travel Club from 1980 to 1984.

 

[Eagle]

I could technically claim Pewsey and Frome, being as they are consecutive stations if you use the Westbury avoiding line but not the Frome avoiding line.

Different combinations of the two avoiders lead to Pewsey and Bruton, and Westbury and Bruton, also working.

 

[Robinson]

Beauly to Carrbridge/Nairn avoiding Inverness.
Lockerbie to Carstairs (in the northbound direction only).
Rutherglen to Carmyle.
Drem to Dunbar.
Willington to Peartree.
Bottesford to Ancaster (all scheduled services reverse at Grantham).
Streatham Hill to Tulse Hill.
St Johns to Hither Green/Ladywell(?); I believe services at St Johns all go via Lewisham.