Off peak return , overnight stay and through barrier.

route101

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Last week , i used the return portion of Portsmouth to Glasgow through barrier at Waterloo on the 23rd of Waterloo. It went through barrier fine.
The next day i used the same ticket at Euston and the ticket was rejected at the barrier. Overnight stays on return are ok i thought.

Does the ticket become void, with the mag stripe?
 
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Hadders

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The return portion of an off peak return is valid for a break journey. However barrier gates aren't intelligent and aren't normally able to identify a break of journey over re-use of the ticket.

Just ask to be let through manually.
 

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Could be worse. I once had a Glasgow - Wick ticket and as per the TOC journey planner I took an overnight break in my journey to get the first train of the day from Inverness. The Guard looked at my ticket in confusion. I explained to him what I had done as per journey planner instructions and I was told the ticket was not valid. I challenged him fully within my rights and calmly. I was then told he was an ex Police Officer and I could be prosecuted for fraud. Anyway, the Guard then allowed me to travel and I heard nothing more...

PS Just to add to this. I had seat reservations for the service I was allegedly not meant to be on. Work that one out.
 

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Could be worse. I once had a Glasgow - Wick ticket and as per the TOC journey planner I took an overnight break in my journey to get the first train of the day from Inverness. The Guard looked at my ticket in confusion. I explained to him what I had done as per journey planner instructions and I was told the ticket was not valid. I challenged him fully within my rights and calmly. I was then told he was an ex Police Officer and I could be prosecuted for fraud. Anyway, the Guard then allowed me to travel and I heard nothing more...

PS Just to add to this. I had seat reservations for the service I was allegedly not meant to be on. Work that one out.
Some people will try anything to lord it over others. The rail industry does not have appropriate processes to ensure that such people leave the industry's employment (or at least customer facing duties).
 

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There are certainly a small number of guards, gateline staff, etc., who regard their little corners of the railway as their fiefdoms and their own idiosyncratic interpretations of the rules as having been handed down on stone tablets. Fortunately, such types only represent a small minority of rail staff. The best way to deal with them is by having done your homework beforehand and with calm confidence. Common sense tends to prevail—if sometimes only eventually—but the small minority of staff who give the railway a bad name never seem to face any consequences for their attitudes.
 

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Really, they are not.
True; I guess it's fair to say some are programmed more intelligently than others? ;)

But for sure the intelligence isn't in the barriers themselves but the people who have specified the rules for what tickets are accepted by the barriers.
 

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