oh dear 158 convoy

[AJP]

Noticed early from bus home from College there was loads of TPE 158's attached together in Donny West Yard. Any ideas? 159 conversions or sending south for the crack?

 

[1D53]

CT are taking some apparantely.

 

[Gizmogle]

I thought some were getting conversions...can't remember where I heard it, so it might not be right.

 

[Guinness]

Ones for FGW? Or have they received their extra '11 sets' yet?

 

[1VWC]

CT are taking some apparantely.

5 3-car and 4 2-car (ex TPX)

2-car units are to be made up to a 3-car formation upon receipt of the surplus centre cars from the SWT units.

A path was in for 158799 to move to Tyseley yesterday. Not sure if it actually took place.

 

[scb201]

5 3-car and 4 2-car (ex TPX)

2-car units are to be made up to a 3-car formation upon receipt of the surplus centre cars from the SWT units.

A path was in for 158799 to move to Tyseley yesterday. Not sure if it actually took place.

Surplus central cars? I thought SWTs was getting 3 car units and possible upgrading it's 2 car units to 3 cars?

 

[Tom]

AFAIK SWT are getting rid of 786 & 789 so they have 1 ROSCO for diesel units.

 

[Turbostar]

Thought SWT were getting some more 158s? Think remember seeing it in mag I got last week. Will find it & get back to you.

Mart

 

[devon_metro]

No, they are 159/1s.

 

[Turbostar]

I know about the 159/1s, I'm not on about those. I'm sure there was a mention in a mag about SWT taking on more 158s.

Mart

 

[Turbostar]

Bear with me, I'll try & find the article...

 

[1VWC]

I know about the 159/1s, I'm not on about those. I'm sure there was a mention in a mag about SWT taking on more 158s.

Mart

Correct. 158808 and 814 have made the move so far.

SWT have said they will enter traffic in an unrefurbished state but they will not work into London until refurbishment takes place.

 

[Turbostar]

Here we go, Rail Express Feb 2007...

'The identites of the 11 Class 158s due to transfer to South West Trains from First TransPennine during 2007 (see RE128 ) have now been revealed, Nos. 158737/42-4/73/5/9/81 and 158801/2/8. Of note is the inclusion of 158808, this having been removed from the Class 159/1 programme, which as a result will now only total eight units, Nos. 159101-8.
The transfers will also bring the disabandonment of hybrid TPE triple sets Nos. 158975/6, both arriving at Heaton during mid-January for this to take place, whilst it is anticipated that once these Porterbrook-owned units arrive, Angel sets Nos. 158786/9 will be taken off-lease. What is unclear is the fate of the centre cars from Nos. 158801/2/8 as these are scheduled to be removed from the units before transfer south.'

From RE128, it was said about the extra 11 sets due to arrive during 2007, will replace the remaining '170s' as well as strengthening the diesel services as per the franchise commitment. Also, the 159/0s are to be sent for refurbishment during 2007.

Mart

 

[1VWC]

'The identites of the 11 Class 158s due to transfer to South West Trains from First TransPennine during 2007 (see RE128 ) have now been revealed, Nos. 158737/42-4/73/5/9/81 and 158801/2/8. Of note is the inclusion of 158808, this having been removed from the Class 159/1 programme, which as a result will now only total eight units, Nos. 159101-8.

Don't bank on the identities of the 158s remaining the same. They are being sent down to SWT as required. 158814 also from the 159/1 programme has gone down in an unrefurbed state (due to no others being available immediately from TPX) which will require another taking its place in the programme at Wabtec.

 

[devon_metro]

Why arent they being converted to 159/1?

 

[Tom]

I believe it's due to the DfT stating that all transfers must be complete by the beginning of the franchise... and while at Donny works apparently they're not with SWT....