Opinions and questions regarding Renatus 321s

[Railperf]

It was stated as 'brand new' so must be a 745/755. Surely nobody of any intelligence could confuse it even with a Renatus 321? Hang on though, even some of the seasoned commuters have had difficulty with such simplistic things

The Renatus units are very clean and bright on board of course..i can understand people mistaking them for new..

 

[samuelmorris]

Do Renatus 321s have first class seats in view of the toilets?

 

[EssexGonzo]

Do Renatus 321s have first class seats in view of the toilets?

Nope. Unless he's mistaken the noises the driver makes behind the cab bulkhead.

 

[Bikeman78]

The Renatus units are very clean and bright on board of course..i can understand people mistaking them for new..

The Renatus 321s are garbage! Congrats to whoever actually managed to make a mediocre design worse. What have they done to the suspension? Nearly had me off my feet near Hatfield Peveral.

 

[Railperf]

The Renatus 321s are garbage! Congrats to whoever actually managed to make a mediocre design worse. What have they done to the suspension? Nearly had me off my feet near Hatfield Peveral.

As a passenger I find them cleaner and more like a 'new' train - despite a sight worsening in ride quality. But the majority of blame for poor ride had to be pointed at Network Rail. The Renatus units run fine on good tracks.

In contrast the original units are tired and in a terrible state. The 745's and 720's really cannot come soon enough.