original lines that saw the 140 and 141 pacers

[Anonymous10]

what lines were the lines that the original pacers ie class 140 and class 141 operate i seem to remember a photograph of the 140s at landore did they operate in west wales??

 

[YorksLad12]

Class 141 (in West Yorkshire's Verona Green and Buttermilk livery) ran on the Leeds-Harrogate-Knaresborough-York Line. I think they also did Leeds-Knottingley.

I assume you mean in the UK - they were sold on to Iran. There's a photo somewhere of one over there in the later WY red and cream livery!

 

[JonathanH]

what lines were the lines that the original pacers ie class 140 and class 141 operate i seem to remember a photograph of the 140s at landore did they operate in west wales??

The 140 did a tour of much of the country as it was a demonstrator of the Pacer concept. (If you search for 140001 and random stations around the country you might find pictures - I found Plymouth, Blackburn, Birmingham, Swansea in just a few moments)

The 141s were production trains and the 20 units operated around West Yorkshire, including to Sheffield and other places in South Yorkshire. They were effectively eliminated as a result of the cascade resulting from the Leeds North West electrification - ie Skipton / Ilkley / Bradford. One of the issues with them is that they had a very low capacity so ended up in their latter days on the routes with the least passengers - eg Sheffield to York via Pontefract - but they operated across the West Yorkshire / South Yorkshire area and as the threads suggest, on services from those areas.
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/class-141-pacers.63546/
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/how-long-was-the-pacer-expected-to-last-post-1997.118167/
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/class-141s-how-far-from-yorkshire-did-they-get.140492/

There is some useful information here, including pictures of testing on the Central Wales line, and a very good piece here.

 

[DarloRich]

I am sure I saw one of the west yorks green & white units at Darlington in the distant past!

 

[61653 HTAFC]

I am sure I saw one of the west yorks green & white units at Darlington in the distant past!

It's mentioned in one of the other threads that they used to run York to Darlington.

In terms of their usual stomping grounds, they could be found on almost any West Yorkshire service. They were less common up Airedale and Wharfedale prior to electrification but not unheard of. Huddersfield to Leeds and Huddersfield to Wakefield saw them a lot, as did Huddersfield to Sheffield.

 

[hexagon789]

The 140 certainly visited the West Highland as a service train, replacing a loco-hauled set. Can't remember if it ran all the way from Mallaig or only from Fort Bill

 

[nn7man]

I remember travelling on 140001 several times between Burscough Junction and Ormskirk in 1981

By John Atkinson - Prototype Pacer 140001 - Ormskirk 22/ 08/ 81

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[Anonymous10]

I remember travelling on 140001 several times between Burscough Junction and Ormskirk in 1981

By John Atkinson - Prototype Pacer 140001 - Ormskirk 22/ 08/ 81

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what units could they work with in multiple using those gangways then?

 

[JonathanH]

what units could they work with in multiple using those gangways then?

None - it isn't a gangway, just an end door, similar to those on a 313/315/315/507/508.

 

[hexagon789]

what units could they work with in multiple using those gangways then?

It's just an emergency exit door for the cab because it doesn't have seperate cab doors.

 

[Anonymous10]

It's just an emergency exit door for the cab because it doesn't have seperate cab doors.

ohhh ok thanks

 

[Western 52]

140001 also did some runs in the south Wales valleys and was exhibited at Cardiff Queen Street.

 

[D6130]

Sometime in the early 'eighties I was invited on a demonstration run on 140 001 one evening after work from Glasgow Central to Largs and back. I remember being mightily unimpressed.....and so were my eardrums when rounding the curves in the branch platforms at Kilwinning!