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Must be one of if not the highest percentage rate of preservation for any train class surely?

The only class in recent history to have achieved anything like it would be the 205s, and that really only applies to those left running by the time of the final withdrawal - though even considering that they fared fairly well.

Out of those left by the late 1990s, 205001/009/018/025/028/032/033/205 were preserved, with only 205012 scrapped. 205024 was also scrapped but that had already been out of service.

Of those I think all but 028/032 are runners today.

The 207s also fared well, with all three of the final three units being preserved. Unfortunately the East Lancs unit doesn’t seem to have run for a while, and the Swindon & Cricklade unit was very sadly the victim of an arson attack though thankfully one car was relatively unscathed.

Having said that, I think 121/122 have also done fairly well.
 

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144005 is missing from your list. Are there any 142s at Newton Heath, I thought they all left mid December 2020?
 

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Wouldn't it be ironic if 144012 is the only one to go for scrap!
I know of three people all mates of mine who'd buy it just to wind me up, that damn unit kept evading me!

Excellent piece of work on the update @NorthernSpirit

Couple of quick amendments:

142's ex TfW

Only 002, 073, 074 & 082 are stored at Landore. They will go to Newport for scrap, with 082 likely to be going next week.

010, 075 & 076 while withdrawn, are still at Cardiff. They 'may' come to Landore or maybe kept at Cardiff if there is space, before going to Newport for scrap.

012 was at Landore, but went for scrap in Hereford on 6th October (along with 079)

143's ex GWR

611, 620 & 621 came to Landore for storage on 17/12/20, and will go to Newport for scrap.

Cheers.
611, 620 & 621 came to Landore for storage on 17/12/20, and will go to Newport for scrap.

Cheers.

Another minor amendment; 142051 headed to Newport Docks for scrap on 22/6/20.

Thanks, I'll add the changes to the next update once we know when the next batch are either scrapped or preserved.

144005 is missing from your list. Are there any 142s at Newton Heath, I thought they all left mid December 2020?
I've added it to the PNG below as withdrawn, since I have no idea where it is at present.
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Excellent piece of work on the update @NorthernSpirit

Couple of quick amendments:

142's ex TfW

Only 002, 073, 074 & 082 are stored at Landore. They will go to Newport for scrap, with 082 likely to be going next week.

010, 075 & 076 while withdrawn, are still at Cardiff. They 'may' come to Landore or maybe kept at Cardiff if there is space, before going to Newport for scrap.

012 was at Landore, but went for scrap in Hereford on 6th October (along with 079)

143's ex GWR

611, 620 & 621 came to Landore for storage on 17/12/20, and will go to Newport for scrap.

Cheers.
Maybe set to change because plans can offically change with TFW 142’s and it is very likely a few are to enter preservation but it has not been declared yet

but subject to change which will keep close eye on.

Its taken months to get around to updating it, sadly its had to lose its colour coding but this is retained on the PNG files below each list.

Class 142:
001 - Unit preserved at the National Railway Museum in York / Shildon.
002 - Withdrawn by TfW
003 - in storage at Eastleigh. Is this unit set to be preserved by a private owner still?
004 - Last to be withdrawn by Northern.
005 - First to be withdrawn, now scrapped (updated as of 7th December 2019)
006 - Withdrawn by TfW
007 - in storage at Eastleigh.
008 - Scrapped (Collided with a class 87 at Winsford in 1999).
009 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
010 - in storage at Landore.
011 - In preservation at the Midland Railway in Butterley
012 - Spare parts unit at Landore TMD.
013 - In preservation at the Midland Railway in Butterley
014 - In storage at Eastleigh
015 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
016 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
017 - Preserved at East Kent Railway.
018 - In storage at Newton Heath TMD
019 - Unit preserved by the Waverley Route Heritage Association
020 - Unit preserved by the Waverley Route Heritage Association
021 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
022 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
023 - Unit to be preserved at Plym Valley Railway? In storage at Newton Heath TMD
024 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
025 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
026 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
027 - Preserved as a spare parts donor for units 029 and 030 by the Chasewater Railway.
028 - Preserved by the Wensleydale Railway
029 - Preserved by the Chasewater Railway
030 - Preserved by the Chasewater Railway
031 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
032 - In storage at Eastleigh.
033 - Converted to a Police Training Unit by South Wales Police at Bridgend rugby pitch.
034 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
035 - Preserved at Wensleydale Railway
036 - Preserved at East Kent Railway
037 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
038 - Preserved at the Mid Norfolk Railway
039 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
040 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
041 - Preserved at the Wensleydale Railway
042 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
043 - Converted to a Police Training Unit by Sussex Police
044 - Scrapped, second class 142 unit to be dismantled at CF Booths (the first being 005).
045 - Converted to a library at Kirk Merrington School
046 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
047 - Off lease 06/03/20 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood.
048 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
049 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
050 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
051 - In storage at Gascoigne Wood.
052 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
053 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
054 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
055 - Preserved at Foxfield Railway.
056 - In storage at Eastleigh. Unit may be preserved.
057 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
058 - Withdrawn by Northern.
059 - Scrapped (Collided with buffer stops at Liverpool Lime Street in 1991.)
060 - Preserved at the Wensleydale Railway.
061 - Preserved at the Mid Norfolk Railway.
062 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
063 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
064 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
065 - Withdrawn by Northern, was last used as a route learner unit between York and Scarborough.
066 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
067 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
068 - Withdrawn by Northern. Was last at Neville Hill TMD in Leeds.
069 - Withdrawn by TfW
070 - In storage at Newton Heath TMD
071 - Withdrawn by Northern, was last used as a route learner unit between York and Scarborough.
072 - Withdrawn by TfW
073 - in storage at Landore.
074 - Withdrawn by TfW
075 - in storage at Landore.
076 - in storage at Landore.
077 - Withdrawn by TfW
078 - Withdrawn by Northern
079 - Was a spare parts unit at Landore TMD. **Now scrapped**.
080 - Withdrawn by TfW
081 - Withdrawn by TfW
082 - in storage at Landore.
083 - Withdrawn by TfW
084 - Preserved by the Rushden Historical Transport Society.
085 - Withdrawn by TfW
086 - Spare parts unit at Canton TMD.
087 - in storage at Heaton TMD.
088 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
089 - In storage at Eastleigh
090 - in storage at Blackburn King Street.
091 - Preserved by the Rushden Historical Transport Society.
092 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
093 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
094 - In storage at Newton Heath TMD
095 - In storage at Newton Heath TMD
096 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury. The last of the class lost for good.

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Class 143 - Has it been confirmed that the Swindon & Cricklade Railway are preserving one?
601 - Can continue in service until 31st May 21
602 - Can continue in service until 31st May 21
603 - Withdrawn by GWR.
604 - Can continue in service until 31st May 21
605 - Can continue in service until 31st May 21
606 - Can continue in service until 31st May 21
607 - Can continue in service until 31st May 21
608 - Can continue in service until 31st May 21
609 - Can continue in service until 31st May 21
610 - Can continue in service until 31st May 21
611 - Withdrawn by GWR.
612 - Withdrawn by GWR.
613 - Scrapped (Unit caught fire near Nailsea & Backwell in 2004).
614 - Can continue in service until 31st May 21
615 - Scrapped (Unit caught fire in 2005).
616 - Can continue in service until 31st May 21
617 - Withdrawn by GWR.
618 - Withdrawn by GWR.
619 - In storage at St Phillips Marsh TMD in Bristol.
620 - Withdrawn by GWR.
621 - Withdrawn by GWR.
622 - Can continue in service until 31st May 21
623 - Can continue in service until 31st May 21
624 - Can continue in service until 31st May 21
625 - Can continue in service until 31st May 21

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Class 144: - All units were based at Neville Hill TMD. One unknown unit is set to be converted to other use by Fagley Primary School.
001 - Set to be preserved. "Penistone Line Partnership"
002 - In storage at Doncaster Belmont Yard
003 - In preservation at the Great Central Railway at Ruddington.
004 - In preservation at the Aln Valley Railway
006 - In preservation at the Cambrian Railway
007 - In preservation at the Cambrian Railway
008 - In preservation at the Corby and District Model Railway Society as a static exhibit
009 - Converted to other use by Greater Manchester Fire & Rescue Service, currently stored at East Lancs Railway.
010 - In preservation at the Weardale Railway
011 - In preservation at the Keighley & Worth Valley
012 - 144 Evolution has full PRM modifications. Currently in storage at Doncaster Belmont Yard.
013 - In preservation at the Telford Steam Railway
014 - In preservation with Vintage Trains at Tyseley
015 - In storage at Heaton?
016 - In preservation at the Aln Valley Railway
017 - In preservation at the Appleby Frodingham Railway, First three car pacer to be preserved.
018 - In preservation at the Mid Norfolk Railway
019 - In preservation with Vintage Trains at Tyseley
020 - In preservation at the Wensleydale Railway
021 - In storage at Doncaster Belmont Yard
022 - In preservation at the Keith & Dufftown Railway
023 - In preservation with Vintage Trains at Tyseley

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No the Swindon and Cricklade Railway annouced they are no longer getting a 143 for preservation because of issues of getting spare parts and that it was too hard in a time like that.

But I did hear from Vale of Berkeley Railway that units 143603 (originally had been intended to go to the Swindon and Cricklade upon withdrawal) now is being preserved by the Sharpness Diesel Group on the Vale of Berkeley Railway with sister 143612.
However 143612 entered preservation but the no1 end is still in Wishaw but the number 2 should follow. 603 has already gone to St Phillips Marsh depot to await delivery to the railway. Watch this space.

Now a unit hasn’t been confirmed yet but one is going to Wensleydale Railway to join up in the Wensleydale Railway Pacer Preservation with units 142028. 035. 041 and 060. And 144020 their. 028 and 060 are not to be run as they’re being used to non rail use. One for accomodation and let out art space. 035 and 041 will likely be running. 035 could get br provincial services two tone blue or 041 the Merseyrail livery as it has Merseyrail condition. 144020 could get its original West Yorkshire crimson and cream livery. Where as the 143 could go regional railway blue or sector liveries the unit isn’t mentioned yet but it could be from GWR or TFW.

and an unidentifed unit roumered 143602 maybe getting saved according to roumers the mystery Railway isn’t revealed yet. So 602’s destination will wait.
Watch this space
 
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142004. 142065 142068 142058 142070 142071 142078 142023 142090 142094 142095 are all in storage at heaton T&R.S.M.D. its believed they are still on lease to may 2021. For staff training purposes. However that might now change due to shortages and covid 19. Also might change further due to toilet having to be locked out due to new rules and not allowed for use off any kind. Hence staff unable to use the toilet during classroom and route learning duties aboard this units meaning unless a tank is specially fitted for this purpose.
Sadly may mean the 142s at heaton T&R.S.M.D may no longer see anymore use. And might sadly go for scrap also.
Unless a last minute miracle or buyer's save them.
 
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Re TfW Class 142 fleet

A number of units have been moved over to Landore this week, to free up space at Canton. The following table shows the move dates:

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Numbers 010, 072 & 076 were due to come, however, I'm given to understand that there is now a slot available for them to go to Sims Newport next week.

The Landore units will start going to Sims, 3 sets at a time, from the following week. As ever, plans can change so don't shoot the messenger.

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006, 081, 077, 085, 080 & 075. Landore. 06/01/21
 

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Like I said about the 142’s owned by TFW of being scrapped or few being preserved that depends
Likely set to change if news gets announced.
 
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142003 in the painshop.... ;)
Sadly, I've got to keep my mouth zipped about what's happening with this one...


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Copyright Carl Watson.
 

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Would be nice to see it in original condition. It was one of the Oldham 5 that didn’t gain the FNW luggage rack refurbishment.
 

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142003 in the painshop.... ;)
Sadly, I've got to keep my mouth zipped about what's happening with this one...


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Copyright Carl Watson.
Turn back the clock to Wednesday the 11th December 2019. When 142003 came to the rescue after working the 0741 Manchester Piccadilly to Chester. It then stepped up to work the 0903 Chester to Manchester Piccadilly approx 25 minutes late. And solo after 150143 ran out off fuel before departure. In its final days off workings. Prior to Sunday 15th December 2019 going into storage at Barrow. Would be great to see 142003 back. Even on a service off some sort.
 

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TfW 142082 went for scrap yesterday. Went by road from Landore to Sims Metals Newport
 
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ex TfW Pacers:

142 072 & 076 will move Canton to Landore tomorrow (Wednesday)
142 010 will make the same journey on Thursday. This will be the last move of a former TfW Class 142 on the national network.

From Landore, the 142s will go for scrap at Newport by road.

142 082 left Landore for scrap yesterday. 142 002 went today and 142 074 will be going tomorrow.

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142 082 prepares for its final journey.

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142 002 went for scrap today.
 

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ex TfW Pacers:

142 072 & 076 will move Canton to Landore tomorrow (Wednesday)
142 010 will make the same journey on Thursday. This will be the last move of a former TfW Class 142 on the national network.

From Landore, the 142s will go for scrap at Newport by road.

142 082 left Landore for scrap yesterday. 142 002 went today and 142 074 will be going tomorrow.

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142 082 prepares for its final journey.

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142 002 went for scrap today.
I’m assuming the GWR 143s at Landore will also go by road to Newport for disposal?
 

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142074 left Landore for scrapping at Sims Newport today. Won’t be surprised if they dismantle the unit as soon as it’s off the low loader!
 
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142074 left Landore for scrapping at Sims Newport today. Won’t be surprised if they dismantle the unit as soon as it’s off the low loader!

Not quite, but by the end of the week it will be.

55723 from 142 073 has just left LE for Sims. 55769 will go tomorrow morning.
 
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Both cars of 074 went out this morning and 55723 of 142 073 went out this evening. The remaining car (55769) will go out Thursday morning, along with 142 076 followed by 142 072 on Friday. These last 2 came up from Canton today.
 

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142004. 142065 142068 142058 142070 142071 142078 142023 142090 142094 142095 are all in storage at heaton T&R.S.M.D. its believed they are still on lease to may 2021. For staff training purposes. However that might now change due to shortages and covid 19. Also might change further due to toilet having to be locked out due to new rules and not allowed for use off any kind. Hence staff unable to use the toilet during classroom and route learning duties aboard this units meaning unless a tank is specially fitted for this purpose.
Sadly may mean the 142s at heaton T&R.S.M.D may no longer see anymore use. And might sadly go for scrap also.
Unless a last minute miracle or buyer's save them.

Miracles happen....
 

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TfW 142076 and the other half of 142073 made their one way trip by road from Landore to Sims Newport today. Won’t be long until the TfW 142s are rendered extinct unless one somehow gets spared the excavator treatment!
 
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For those asking about the TfW Class 142's going for scrap: 5 went from Landore to Sims last week and a further 5 units this week. The remaining units will go next week.

These are the dates they went for scrap:

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Has there been any further scrap moves from Landore to Newport?

080 (55730 yesterday, 55776 today)
077 (55727 today, 55773 will go first thing tomorrow.

081 scheduled for tomorrow (both cars)
085 Thursday (both cars)

That makes 14 out of 15 units.

142 006 won't be going to Sims ;)
 

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