Paddington/Ladbroke grove crash 1999

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wilric

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Has anyone any photos of the points numbered 8063B at Ladbroke Grove before and/or after the 1999 crash?
 
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wilric

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The enquiry stated that the Turbo train 'ran through' the swing nose points 8063B. I would like to see of what design the points were and what form of damage they suffered as a result of the run through.
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and because I think the enquiry got certain things wrong
 

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The enquiry stated that the Turbo train 'ran through' the swing nose points 8063B. I would like to see of what design the points were and what form of damage they suffered as a result of the run through.
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and because I think the enquiry got certain things wrong
Pray what do you think the inquiry got wrong?
 

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They blamed it primarily on the position and sighting difficulties of signal 109 and the bright sunlight that may have illuminated the unlit yellow lights and diminished the lit red light.
I believe that the cause occurred before signal 109.
I am writing my interpretation of what happened and will probably post it on here when it is finished, several days from now.
It would be really useful to see a report and photo of the points 8063B if anyone can locate them please.
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I also believe that the enquiry did get it correct in terms of the Driver was not to blame.
 

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Does anyone know if there is a list online of the victims names from this crash? I was told that somebody whom I used to work with years ago was a victim, but i've never been able to corroborate this. I have been unable to find anything about him online alive or otherwise.
 

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From the report:

Those who lost their lives
Ladbroke Grove, 5 October 1999

Charlotte Andersen
Derek Antonowitz
Anthony Beeton
Ola Bratlie
Roger Brown
Jennifer Carmichael
Brian Cooper
Robert Cotton
Sam Di Lieto
Shaun Donoghue
Neil Dowse
Cyril Elliott
Fiona Grey
Juliet Groves
Sun Yoon Hah
Michael Hodder
Elaine Kellow
Martin King
Antonio Lacovara
Rasak Ladipo
Matthew Macaulay
Delroy Manning
John Northcott
John Raisin
David Roberts
Allan Stewart
Khawar Tauheed
Muthulingam Thayaparan
Andrew Thompson
Bryan Tompson
Simon Wood
 

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Killing Joke - Ghost of Ladbroke Grove

http://youtu.be/0ZOOYFO5ee0
Heavy, atmospheric and entirely listenable

Not sure if it's about the crash or just the area generally, amazing music though, highly recommended.

Holy water, burn my money
(Danger, danger, stranger, stranger)
Guns and bling-bling, blues shabena
(First one's free, pay me later)
All habits still die hard
(Danger, danger, it's getting stranger)

Get together, come remember
Ghosts of Ladbroke Grove
(What's happened to Ladbroke Grove?)

All my brothers and comrades
(Danger, danger, stranger, stranger)
Come together with the sound
(First one's free, pay me later)
All my brothers and soulmates
(Danger, danger, it's getting stranger)
All hail this hallowed ground
(First one's free, pay me later)

Get together, come remember
Ghosts of Ladbroke Grove
(What's happened to Ladbroke Grove?)

Carnivals and riots, immigrants and radicals
(Danger, danger, stranger, stranger)
Artists - no per diems
(First one's free, pay me later)
Carnivals and riots, immigrants and radicals
(Danger, danger, it's getting stranger)
Bands who've lost their dreams
(First one's free, pay me later)

Get together, come remember
Ghosts of Ladbroke Grove
(What's happened to Ladbroke Grove?)
 
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