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Passengers disability scooter not allowed on train [SWT]

Discussion in 'UK Railway Discussion' started by wintonian, 17 Nov 2011.

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  1. tempests1

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    Life is full of comprimises, does the man expect SWT to put an order an order in for bigger trains, does he expect Network Rail to increase all the UK lines loading gauges. How does he think all of the above will be paid for? At the end of the day the UK's rail infrastructure was mostly built in Victoria times. What if there was a train fire or other emergency event where people had to urgently evacuate the carriage/train. They would struggle to get around the 4 wheeled oversized scooter. It seems he has a chip on his shoulder with his disability but trains will be designed primarily for the non disabled person. But with a small area dedicated to wheelchair users. I can't see what else the TOC could do? as discussed earlier very expensive modifications to the carriages layout to the detriment of the overall seating amount. Would this be fair to the default user to have to stand for a considerable distance? where there were previously seats!
     
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  2. Ferret

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    Scooters, massive pushchairs - the items people want to bring on board are slowly increasing in size. A challenge for the railway indeed.....
     
  3. BestWestern

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    Pushchairs are a challenge indeed. A compulsory 'must be folded' policy is needed in some areas. Fat chance of that happening :|
     
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    In my opinion, personal scooters blur the line between those who have trouble walking and those who can't be bothered to walk.
     
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    That's the only place he would be able to go with his scooter! As others have said, it's about the ability to move the scooter around on the train, i.e. its turning circle. Other factors to take into account are weight (train ramps aren't designed to take mini tanks!) and overall size of the scooter.
     
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    Some do indeed. I've seen one owner 'do a Little Britain' when the Rozzers arrived to arrest him! I didn't know whether to laugh or what to do?!
     
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    Do you need any medical papers or licence to buy a mobility scooter ?

    Or can anyone buy them, for instance if you don't feel like walking anywhere ?
     
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    You'll be lynched by Mumsnet for suggesting that!
     
  9. Ferret

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    Having seen many collisions and near misses involving scooters, I'm assuming there isn't any requirement for a licence....though there ought to be! Lol!

    As an aside, turning up to almost any Wetherspoon pub during a morning will always yield sight of mobility scooters parked outside. I wonder if what happens is their owners get tanked up on lager, then proceed to create mayhem on the pavements in the afternoon while three sheets to the wind! Having seen some of the Kamikaze owners out there, I reckon I'm onto something! Lol!
     
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    At the end of the day Health & Safety supersedes the DDA or 'Equality Act'.

    I left JourneyCare (VT Assisted Travel) 2 years ago and it's clear to see Scooters are still a menace! :-x

    They are independent run-around vehicles which are NOT designed for public transport - end of! Hence the issues with turning circles etc.

    Until they can turn in their own circle this issue will never be resolved, unless the UK train fleet is sorted!
     
  11. BestWestern

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    Yep, and sod 'em! :o They're a bloody nuisance, all too often Captained by extraordinarily ignorant women who seem to think that they and the twenty others lined up on the platform are all going to get onto a two car Sprinter. Watch the face of doom they pull when confronted with the most offensive request in the world, "Would you mind folding that up please as you are blocking the aisle/gangway/doors/ability of other people to go about their business without breaking their necks on your pi55-poorly parked baby chariot..." :roll::roll::roll:
     
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    It's a nightmare for bus operators too. They of cource are restricted in most cases by what can fit between the front wheelarches, and like trains, weight limits on ramps. Still though people with massive pushchairs or mobility scooters want to get on. Coaches also have problems as they can carry things in the hold but are very restricted on weight for the safety of the driver who has to load things into the hold. A common complaint will be when the driver refused to carry (litterally) someone's mobility tank. Where lifts are provided these have weight and size limits too. Pushchairs also lead to the problem that there is a maximum number that can be carried, and beyond that more cannot be taken without compromising safety.
     
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