Peterborough to Farringdon, via King's Cross

[Scotty]

Morning all,

Should a Peterborough - London Terminals ticket (whether Advance, Anytime, Off-Peak) allow you to travel on the underground from King's Cross St Pancras through to Farringdon, and then let you out the barriers there?

This is a regular journey for many workmates, and I did this return journey yesterday - my 2 Advance tickets DID allow me in and out of the underground at KCSP and Farringdon, for both journeys.

However, a colleague tried this on Wednesday, and the barrier going into KCSP came up Seek Assistance - she also had an Advance ticket. She then used a shared Oyster to get through.

I assumed it would let you out, as you are eligible to go through to Moorgate (2 stops down the line from Farringdon on the tube). This would save this company hundreds of pounds each year on Oyster fares.

 

[LexyBoy]

No - the validity of London Terminals tickets from the Great Northern area allows travel on the Tube between Kings Cross and Moorgate or Old Street only, not at intermediate stations.

 

[Romilly]

The answer appears to be "No": see part 7.3 of the forum's fares and ticketing guide: interavailability between National Rail and the Underground is available only for final exits at Old Street or Moorgate (or Highbury & Islington as well if changing to the underground at Finsbury Park).

 

[Haywain]

As stated by LexyBoy, Farringdon is not a London Terminals station and if you want to alight there you will need a ticket to either Zone U1 London or Farringdon when travelling from the Great Northern/East Coast route.

 

[Scotty]

OK, fair enough - thanks for the replies. Interesting how my ticket let me out/in at Farringdon!

 

[Hadders]

OK, fair enough - thanks for the replies. Interesting how my ticket let me out/in at Farringdon!

Ticket barriers do not determine validity!

 

[amateur]

Can you buy tickets to zfd or do you have to buy a ticket to city thameslink to travel to farringdon

 

[CyrusWuff]

Can you buy tickets to zfd or do you have to buy a ticket to city thameslink to travel to farringdon

It depends on where you're starting from! Some flows will have an explicit fare to Farringdon (e.g. a large swathe, if not all, of the former Southern Region) or London Thameslink (stations between Kentish Town and Derby/Nottingham), and for the rest you'll generally need a ticket with London Underground Zone 1 validity.

 

[Hadders]

You can purchase tickets from Peterborough to Farringdon routed 'Great Northern Only' (NB. the equivalent ticket from stations further south is routed 'Not Underground').

This ticket is not valid on the Underground but is intended to be used on Thameslink services between St Pancras and Farringdon.

It's obviously 'Great Northern Only' rather than 'Not Underground' to prevent use on VTEC services. Previously it would have been 'FCC only' and it really should say 'GTR only'. It would be interesting to see GTR's response to the validity about brands and to see if they contradict themselves with their stance about Gatwick Express, Southern etc.