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317 forever
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I looked at their website recently, and it seems that Plymouth Citybus no longer serve Tavistock. I guess the Stagecoach service with modern Enviro 400 - MMCs is now sufficient for the Plymouth - Tavistock corridor.
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These two companies have been as clear as they are allowed to be without incurring the wrath of the Competition wallahs that they don't wish to compete with each other! They each want to earn a bit of money on their chosen corridors and be happy with that - eminently sensible in my view.
148 & 522 have now both reentered service after repairs but 106 will take a little longer.
Twice daily I believe, 46A 46B are open door school services, they run in service on the non school leg as well, I.e early morning Plymouth to tavvy and an evening tavvy to Plymouth
317 forever
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Thank you Rich. I shall look up these routes next time I come to Plymouth. I am due to do so by next March regardless of class 800/01 trains.
The Plymouth Citybus route 45 Plymouth to Tavistock essentially consisted of in-service positioning journeys for the 46 Tavistock - Okehampton service, which was operated under contract to Devon County Council. That contract ended in September 2017 when the Tavistock - Okehampton route passed to Dartline as service 118.
Plymouth CityBus do still operate schoolday routes 46a and 46b between Tavistock and Devonport schools, as well as an early live positioning journey from Milehouse Depot to Tavistock and an afternoon journey back.
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I could be coming to Plymouth this Spring now. I want to come soon, partly to increase my chances of riding an ex-Brighton Trident-President. Pictures on Flickr suggest these have been refurbished with PCB seating. When I rode an ex-London Volvo B7TL-President in 2013 it still had old GA London seating.
The Citaros have been ‘spare’ since the Volvos went on the 11.
The single decker scanias are being recommissioned for the Ivybridge Route, freeing up some E200s to release the Citaros from there spare duties. The Citaros can be found on most routes recently. The intention when they left the 11 was for them to become driver trainers, but that didn’t happen.
The single decker scanias are being recommissioned for the Ivybridge Route, freeing up some E200s to release the Citaros from there spare duties. The Citaros can be found on most routes recently. The intention when they left the 11 was for them to become driver trainers, but that didn’t happen.
That 'report' from John Helliwell that Citaros are heading to KonectBus was an April fools, they aren't going anywhere.
Some of the '65 plate E200s are likely to be moved on to the 70/71, so the Scanias will fill their places on the 20/A.
This maybe on hold as I am told the Enviros still do not fit on the ferry after modification
Some of the '65 plate E200s are likely to be moved on to the 70/71, so the Scanias will fill their places on the 20/A.
This maybe on hold as I am told the Enviros still do not fit on the ferry after modification
That quote was from a driver normally found on the cremyl service.
The 65 plates are apparently ok, but the older ones can’t get on. He said the standard livery 65 plates will have to pooled seperately to the 08 plates which they currently aren’t.
The 65 plates are apparently ok, but the older ones can’t get on. He said the standard livery 65 plates will have to pooled seperately to the 08 plates which they currently aren’t.
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I made it down to Devon at the end of April as planned. I had a day out on Plymouth Citybus on Wednesday May 2nd.
The oldest bus I spotted in service was R-reg Dart 117, still with beige moquette. I rode a total of 10 buses, all of different types, but did not venture up to Bude in the end.
I spotted an intriguing coincidence in Plymouth. GA Plymouth Citybus have 65-reg classic Enviro 400 and Enviro 200s, while Stagecoach have 65-reg Enviro 400-MMC and Enviro 200-MMC types (admittedly on Park & Ride services)!
The oldest bus I spotted in service was R-reg Dart 117, still with beige moquette. I rode a total of 10 buses, all of different types, but did not venture up to Bude in the end.
I spotted an intriguing coincidence in Plymouth. GA Plymouth Citybus have 65-reg classic Enviro 400 and Enviro 200s, while Stagecoach have 65-reg Enviro 400-MMC and Enviro 200-MMC types (admittedly on Park & Ride services)!
39 T139EFJ now withdrawn as 69 due back next week after a MOT
486 has received a new engine
New arrival V905FEC ex City Sightseeing Oxford rumored to be for the 25 route but it looks a little tatty on the outside at the moment.
102 OCO502 has all body panels removed some new woodwork installed.
486 has received a new engine
New arrival V905FEC ex City Sightseeing Oxford rumored to be for the 25 route but it looks a little tatty on the outside at the moment.
102 OCO502 has all body panels removed some new woodwork installed.
I saw 433 having a crash about 2 weeks ago opposite Crownhill Mcdnalds. Front lights smashed but panels looked straight. The brand new Skoda it T boned looked wrecked.
Plymouth citybus have won the 48 tender to commence from September.
Mechanically they’ve won a contract to carry out required maintanance and to house Megabus vehicles that are parked in Plymouth overnight. Another nail into stagecoach who have lost the Megabus contract to South Gloucster (who are sub contracting driving at this end to Hamilton Gray)
Plymouth citybus have won the 48 tender to commence from September.
Mechanically they’ve won a contract to carry out required maintanance and to house Megabus vehicles that are parked in Plymouth overnight. Another nail into stagecoach who have lost the Megabus contract to South Gloucster (who are sub contracting driving at this end to Hamilton Gray)
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I'm not sure Stagecoach can have 'lost' the Megabus contract - Megabus are owned by Stagecoach. They have presumably chosen to give it to South Gloucester for financial and/or practical reasons.
However you look at it Stagecoach Plymouth has lost that work, both maintanance and driving. That’s staffing not required any more.
Was told yesterday that all maintenance has ended at Plymouth and service buses are going to Exeter for planned maintenance. I keep seeing Plymouth buses not in service on the A38 which would make sense if no engineering at Plymouth any more.
The SN16 e200s have now moved to Exeter with Darts being sent to Plymouth
The SN16 e200s have now moved to Exeter with Darts being sent to Plymouth
An 80 mile round trip for maintenance is crazy, surely that's just a short term fix? Whoever has the contract for low loading/towing for Plymouth must be raking it in!
The existing depot is on the Plymouth redevelopment list for the next 5 years. A Stagecoach driver i was talking with believes in time the 1 will move to operate from the Tavistock outstation, the 3 from Dartmouth, Falcon from Exeter, and 2 withdrawn as PCB and SC have each got 6 buses an hour on that route. He suspected the X38 would be used for moving buses from Tavistock to Exeter via a 1.
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Sounds as if ScSW may pack Plymouth in then and that could open up further options for PCB.
If the suggestion about the Falcon being worked from Exeter were to come to pass then that would be a good amount of dead mileage from Plymouth to Exeter. Also driver changes would have to be done by sending drivers on the Park and Ride services from Exeter City Centre.
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Surely the Falcon could be diverted to pass Matford quite easily for driver changes. Just bus changes might be harder, could see some additional Exeter to Plymouth falcons.
Callywith College have released their route map for Sept 2018 term. Quite a large increase in buses needed talking to drivers. A driver told me 513-519, plus 2 x Volvo single deckers and 1 x Dart will be the allocated fleet for Callywith. In addition the 11A & 11 will be timetabled to connect to the college timings.
I'm curious what they will do during the day as surely wont waste them parked up in Bodmin all day?
Currently recruiting for drivers for outstations at Liskeard, Callington, Launceston and Bodmin.
I'm curious what they will do during the day as surely wont waste them parked up in Bodmin all day?
Currently recruiting for drivers for outstations at Liskeard, Callington, Launceston and Bodmin.
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Passed through Launceston on Sunday. I wasn't familiar with the town but glimpsed a red decker parked in an area indicated as leading to Newport Industrial Estate.I couldn't make out if it was perhaps a bus station? Would it have been a PCB bus and would it have been on service on a Sunday or is an outstation situated there. If it's an outstation do any other buses park there?
There is an outstation on Newport Industrial Estate.
It’s an ongoing joke with my friend when he says he’s got to sign on at Newport, that South Wales is a bit far away for an outstation.
Traffic commissioner has them authorised for 4 vehicles in Newport. They share the station with Summercourt Travel I believe
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