Plymouth Citybus

Discussion in 'Buses & Coaches' started by DaveHarries, 25 Aug 2016.

  1. Busaholic

    Busaholic Established Member

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    But aren't they operating them on a 'temporary' basis? I thought January 2019.
     
  2. Cesarcollie

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    Under most such circumstances- if it's a new legal entity and/or O Licence, the local authority would need to re-tender.....
     
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    No Devon county contracts have gone to other operators. DCC gave them a deadline of mid December to get a new licence and keep their contracts.
    It’s Plymouth City Council who have stripped them of everything and retendered everything. I believe though that the PCC contracts were due natural renewals as PCB also lost a couple of contracts.
     
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    It’s the same legal entity. It’s the legal entity the contracts are awarded to so unimpacted
     
  5. Cesarcollie

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    Thanks - understood. Still surprised- most local authorities would take the view that no O Licence = unable to operate = breach of contract = termination. Resulting in probably temporary cover plus then a re-tendering exercise.
     
  6. richw

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    But the legal entity has a continuous O Licence so your theory isn’t relevant here.
    Target have been granted a 17 disc licence on the same legal entity.
     
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    Those were the routes that were tendered by Plymouth City Council, also the PR3 that Plymouth CityBus took over. The routes that Target are apparently retaining are the ones contracted to Devon County Council.
     
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    Sorry I'm now confused. I thought their licence had been revoked, and they had applied for a new one? If this is the case, there is a period during which they had no O Licence....
     
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    No there hasn’t been a period without a licence.
    The 40+ disc was given notice of revocation in the summer due to them not Having adequate finances in place for that size operation. Originally the notice was for late October, but the TC extended it until end of December when they applied for a new licence, as they had considerable finance available just not enough. Their new licence was granted last week and is valid immediately. Therefore the revoked licence was valid until 31/12/18, and the new licence for 17 vehicles is valid from a date in the last week.
    The new licence now replaces the revoked one immediately
     
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    160 YX09FLR in service for the 2nd time today working the 25
     
  11. DaveHarries

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    More VOSA Bus Service registration entries on 11-Dec-2018 from Plymouth Citybus, all effective 03-Feb-2019, for changes to Services 21/21A, 34, 40, 42B, 42C, 44/44A and school service 118.

    Dave
     
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    They seem to change more than I have hot dinners. Can’t be good for passengers so many changes?
     
  13. Peter Heath

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    473 looking very second hand still in London Red with white swoop on PR3 today.
     
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    Haven’t seen any of them these in use yet but didn’t expect that one would turn up the PR3.
     
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    Plymothian Transit website reports that 436 (X571 EGK) , 437 (X702 EGK) & 404 (PN02 XCG) withdrawn recently.

    Presumably some of the ex London E400’s are in use. Any observations?
     
  16. Peter Heath

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    460,466,473,474 at least are being used but so far only seen on Schools and PR3
     
  17. DaveHarries

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    According to the Tamar Crossing's twitter feed a bus was leaking fuel near the bus stop by the Torpoint Ferry which had to be towed. Does anyone know what bus that was?
     
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    Lucky that didn't happen on the ferry: that would have been another ferry out of action all day, or even longer!
     
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    Former Target Travel E200 161 (YX09 FLV) on service 25 today.
     
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    Visited Milehouse today 404 & 437 have gone and 436 has lost all references to Plymouth so is ready to go.
     

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