no. we could have said, 'OK we leave on 29th march 2019. If you want to trade, where are your proposals?' The tories have been so fixated on the need for a deal they didnt use the obvious bargaining chip. Especially as the EU sell more to us than we do to them.
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[Poll] Conservative leadership challenge, predictions.
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Did you seriously think we'd be able to leave the European Union on our terms?
Iskra
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Hopefully she wins. I really fear for our economy if she loses. The alternatives are pretty dire.
(I'm not Pro-May, I just think she's a safe pair of hands compared to the rest and it's the best thing for the country at the moment).
(I'm not Pro-May, I just think she's a safe pair of hands compared to the rest and it's the best thing for the country at the moment).
It's the tinkerbell effect. If you really really believe hard enough then reality will magically bend to your will.
trash80
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Well you can leave a job whenever you like, though you will have to face the consequences of your decision. You will probably struggle to get your ex-employer to provide you with a reference for example if you don't work your notice period. As it is with Brexit, we can leave how we like. But there will be consequences.
nlogax
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Have a feeling the ERG are about to be put back in their box for a bit..I have a feeling May's about to get a decent result.
Not that it'll help a vote for her deal.
Not that it'll help a vote for her deal.
A Challenge
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Theresa May has won the vote of confidence, she is going to stay, 200 to 117.
Iskra
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If she survives, I'd like to see 48 letters of resignation.
EM2
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She's safe - 200 to 117.
hexagon789
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A fairly comfortable win of 200-117. I wonder if there'll be a reshuffle now?
bramling
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Depends on one’s definition of comfortable of course. That’s still roughly a third of her MPs who don’t endorse her.
I’d say the result is in line with what we’d have expected. Now back to the issue of getting a deal through parliament...
hexagon789
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I would say comfortable in that it wasn't down to the wire. Though perhaps not as comfortable as she would've hoped for.
Yep, going to be hard going, very hard going I think.
trash80
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Wasn't it a secret ballot then?
DynamicSpirit
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As one historical comparison: 200-117 (63% for her) is a better result than the 204-152 (57% for her) that Mrs. Thatcher got in the no confidence vote that (combined with advice from colleagues) made her decide she didn't have enough support to carry on as PM. But not massively better.
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Not quite an inning's win but good enough. So we're back to where we were before she pulled the vote, but at least the ERG can't strike again and are out of the way.
It does look like she will need the support of Labour to get her Brexit through.
It does look like she will need the support of Labour to get her Brexit through.
Hahah, backbone in a back bencher.
DarloRich
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May got 63% of the vote. Can the Tory clown towners now shut up and get on with sorting out Brexit? We wont get a say sadly so they need to sort this out.
A Challenge
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He does have some of a point - the 'payroll vote' is a known thing when it comes to MPs voting.
Resignation from what? Parliament? Don't be silly. And 117 voted against her. Do they all resign as MPs?
100+ Conservative MPs triggering by-elections? If just six lost such a by-election then the government would fall.
I'm sure he does. But unlike Brexit the No Confidence vote doesn't make his funds millions of pounds.
Karl
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Delivering BREXIT. That's what our country voted for.
Define brexit please.
I assume you mean leave everything including the CU and SM. If so how do you stop the GFA being rendered invalid and a hard border in N. Ireland and ROI.
How are you going to keep the lights on in n. Ireland as when the GFA becomes invalid the electricity supply gets cut until a deal is made. N. Ireland does not have enough local generating capacity and the link to gb can't take up the slack.
EM2
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I suppose it's too much to hope that JR-M will now go back to being a backbench non-entity.
Iskra
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Fair enough, good points.
Karl
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2 years ago I took a half day's leave to put my vote in those two options. I ticked, or was it X'ed my box. The country's vote and decision was to leave. Hence the BREXIT term?
DynamicSpirit
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Does this count as the first election that Theresa May has overall actually won as Prime Minister 
(First chosen unopposed as Conservative leader so no election. Then didn't quite win the subsequent general election...)
(First chosen unopposed as Conservative leader so no election. Then didn't quite win the subsequent general election...)
Does this count as the first election that Theresa May has overall actually won as Prime Minister
(First chosen unopposed as Conservative leader so no election. Then didn't quite win the subsequent general election...)
She won her constituency election to remain MP for Maidenhead in the 2017 General Election.
Whilst MPs cease to be MPs after a dissolution of Parliament, by convention the Prime Minister remains Prime Minister until the result of the General Election is known.
cactustwirly
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Well it wasn't exactly hard for her to win Maidenhead! (Also where I'm registered to vote, so technically she's my local MP, although in practice Liz Kendall is for half the year!)
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