trainmania100
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Fingers crossed it's back in service soon
Yeah saw that, no idea how big a job that is, I'd assume control wire probably controls the traction motors?Update on 313201 courtesy of Part Time Spotter's excellent blog: https://partimespotter.wordpress.com/2019/02/12/313201-is-still-in-the-sick-bay-2.
It is still at Lovers Walk and reportedly requires the control wire to be replaced in full.
The 455s have 46 units for 42 diagrams. The 377s have some slack, the number of diagrams reduced last May. So the easiest solution is to put a four car 377 on a 313 diagram if required.GN 313s are going to be salvaged for spares then scrapped. As said best thing to do would be to source a 377 to cover the diagram. I am sure they can juggle the stock workings to make one available. The 455s are used less intensively these days so perhaps they could swap a 377 working in the metro area for a 455 and use the 377 for the 313 diagram. GTR have enough stock I am sure to balance it out even if its in the May timetable change officially.
The reason you have long trains running around off peak is because there's nowhere to put the surplus coaches, no drivers to take them there, and to prevent using up time at stations such as London Bridge and Victoria splitting and attaching them.
I'm not sure you could attach and split at East Croydon, as I don't believe there's any permissive working there, and there platform staff aren't trained to do it.
The 455s have 46 units for 42 diagrams. The 377s have some slack, the number of diagrams reduced last May. So the easiest solution is to put a four car 377 on a 313 diagram if required.
My point is that the 455s cannot cover any extra work, so we are in agreement. If I recall correctly there were only 40 diagrams at the start of last year which increased to 42 in May. I'm slightly surprised that Southern cannot get 16 of the 19 313s in service each day. Hornsey has to cover 41 diagrams with only three spares and they usually manage it.If you look more closely, the 455s have been notably short today, including several cancellations this morning, and it's not an isolated issue by any stretch of the imagination. The 377s are also pretty stretched covering 313 work and it's not really fully sustainable.
My point is that the 455s cannot cover any extra work, so we are in agreement. If I recall correctly there were only 40 diagrams at the start of last year which increased to 42 in May. I'm slightly surprised that Southern cannot get 16 of the 19 313s in service each day. Hornsey has to cover 41 diagrams with only three spares and they usually manage it.
thats what i imagine. Was it ever in regular use?Permissive working either splitting, attaching or platform sharing is not permitted at East Croydon on any platforms even though the interlocking and signalling would still allow it on platforms 4 and 5.
Permissive working either splitting, attaching or platform sharing is not permitted at East Croydon on any platforms even though the interlocking and signalling would still allow it on platforms 4 and 5.
Interesting, just checked and both my paper copy and the online copy of the Sectional Appendix specifically say it's authorised on those two platforms... can't recall seeing any notices to the contrary either.
thats what i imagine. Was it ever in regular use?
Or even from the same operator..If only there was some 313s and 314s from another operator being scrapped soon which the parts could be robbed from...
Different ROSCOs from all the other PEPs though...Or even from the same operator
Different ROSCOs from all the other PEPs though...
The South Eastern 508's?Cant remember the class, but there was some PEP stock scrapped around 2012-2013. Eversholt did a reclaim exercise where they obtained a load of reuseable parts during the scrapping process, to be used to keep other fleets going. I was party to some of the photos of the reclaimed parts, although I no longer have access to these
Any chance that parts will be used from the 313/0 that's been retired with great Northern? I heard 026 I think it was, is due a major exam and is out of milesThere are rumors she may live again
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5N63 05/03/2019 23:05 Brighton 05/03/2019 23:25 Lovers Walk T&RSMD
Is Big Blue the real thing. All sort of rumors floating around. She does seem 'newer' than before.
What does MA mean?Failed again today at Lewes. Compressor issues. Needed a tow.
Update : MA issue.