Preston to London

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  1. sdrennan

    sdrennan Member

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    travel to London the cheapest ticket for train arriving at 8:30 am is about £152 and not flexible

    I have access to a Corporate ticket which is a First Open Single at 50% cost for a Glasgow to London Euston and is £125.

    Would it be valid to use this for a Preston - Euston and get a cheaper ticket which is also Flexible and First Class
     
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  3. 30907

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    If it is an Anytime Single then it is valid to start short at Preston. Indeed, the fare from Preston is the same!
    I assume there are no conditions that would forbid you to use it?
     
  4. sdrennan

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    I don't see any conditions. It looks the exact same as First Open Single but at a reduced cost.

    i am in Glasgow so unlikely to use it but I have many colleagues in Preston who are paying significant cost for a less flexible ticket without the benefits of 1st Class
     
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    Sounds valid to me from what you say. However, don't be surprised if you do get arguments from staff at Preston (they often put a block on on peak trains to/from London to avoid people using cheaper tickets to/from Lancaster which prohibit break of journey) and end up missing the train anyway and needing to make a retrospective complaint.
     
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    Would this also be valid for starting at manchester when travelling to Euston,
    Normal open tickets are valid on the Glasgow- Manchester-London route i believe. Only small caveat is that this ticket is Avanti
     
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    Avanti operate Manchester to London as well
     
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    That's an interesting question more widely - if you have a given route A-B-C, and you have a TOC specific ticket A-C, but that TOC don't operate A-B, are you allowed to just do B-C on that TOC? I can see the argument either way, to be honest. I suspect it is one of those things that is not banned therefore it is allowed, but that might well bring arguments from some staff.
     
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    If you are using a ticket that is a First Anytime Single or First Anytime Return you may start, finish, break or resume your journey at any point on a permitted route. There are no time restrictions and what you are suggesting is fine.
     
  10. sdrennan

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    It is first anytime single. Only restriction is Avanti trains only
     
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    In that case this, plus you make sure you on travel on Avanti West Coach only.
     
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    Condition 13.1 of the conditions of travel explain how a ticket with no route restriction should be used, but I can't see anything which tells you how you may use a ticket which does have a route restriction. I certainly can't answer your question.

    This question is perhaps less relevant for a Manchester-London journey, though. LM is a valid map combination for the route. This permits Glasgow-Crewe-Styal-Manchester-Stoke-London, and Avanti regularly run trains on all of it.
     
  13. sdrennan

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    Many thanks
     

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