Priv Questions

[33056]

Something ive always wondered here thats a bit of a daft question
I Have a BR Staff Travel card and i am wondering, If i date a box am i valid for travel on the tube aswell? Or is it only valid on the tube for privellage rate tickets

Thanks

Jack

Generally no, except on the lines listed on pages seven and eight of this document .

 

[Gizmogle]

No, you can't do a PRIV ticket from somewhere to zones. I asked once. Cause it's not NR and TfL has different arrangements and stuff.

 

[yorkie]

can someone confirm for certain if PRIV discounts are available on Freedom of Scotland rovers? martyn29 tried to get one and was told not, but someone else claims you can?

 

[Gizmogle]

Hmmm...I'm not sure about that one, but I know that you can't get a PRIV discount on all rangers and rovers.

 

[hairyhandedfool]

Only SO, FO, SD, FD, EO, EF tickets.

 

[dan_atki]

Yes well the funny thing is under NFM96-99 it would appear PRIV discounts are NOT valid on a FOSS rover, yet it [the £10 PRIV 3 in 7 FOSS] still appeared on STAR when I enquired about it...

By still appeared, I mean on the list of valid tickets that can be printed relating to a 3 in 7 FOSS (i.e. all the different adult and child versions with discounts that were allowed) it said 'Adult PRIV 3 in 7 FOSS £10.00'

 

[Big Phil]

Probably been answered in this thread somewhere but how long does a box last?

Could you get away with using one box for a journey going Friday evening coming back Monday morning?
I'm asking on behalf of my daughter who will have priv boxes and will want to use them coming back at weekends from university.

 

[westcoaster]

boxes last for 48 hours from the date entered in them

 

[37412]

Probably been answered in this thread somewhere but how long does a box last?

Could you get away with using one box for a journey going Friday evening coming back Monday morning?
I'm asking on behalf of my daughter who will have priv boxes and will want to use them coming back at weekends from university.

If you fill a box in on the Friday it will be valid Fri and Sat although I think there is something for when you travel on sleepers by where if you get on say the 2300 EUS-EDB on a Friday night you can enter saturdays date and it covers you (after 10 O'clock I think it is)???

 

[glynn80]

Probably been answered in this thread somewhere but how long does a box last?

Could you get away with using one box for a journey going Friday evening coming back Monday morning?
I'm asking on behalf of my daughter who will have priv boxes and will want to use them coming back at weekends from university.

Do dependants still keep their boxes after they leave school/college I didn't think university living counted as still being a dependant?

 

[yorkie]

I think it counts if they are living at home.

 

[dan_atki]

Dependent unmarried children of employees are also granted travel
facilities subject to certain conditions, which include:
· they are either living with the employee or temporarily resident away
from home for school or advanced education purposes
· they are under age 25 years and earning below a set scale
· they are permanent invalids, irrespective of age, who have never been
able to follow any employment and are eligible for state benefits.

It is regardless of whether or not the staff member is safeguarded or TOCNE (or even retired ex-BR staff for that matter) the restrictions for a dependant child are all the same.

Current threshold for gross weekly earnings is £112.85.

 

[Craig]

Do dependants still keep their boxes after they leave school/college I didn't think university living counted as still being a dependant?

Yes provided they're under 25, living at home and earning under a certain amount per week IIRC.

boxes last for 48 hours from the date entered in them

I thought it was 50 hours (22:00 the previous night to 23:59 the next day)?

 

[First class]

I can get normal 75% discounts on my ME PRIV on ALRs... in both classes.

 

[Gizmogle]

Question.

I was recently told that on Northern and Merseyrail you don't need to date a box anymore.

True?

 

[yorkie]

Question.

I was recently told that on Northern and Merseyrail you don't need to date a box anymore.

True?

Who said that?

If ATOC make no mention of this I think it is almost certainly false...

 

[Gizmogle]

My Dad. Not sure where he heard it.

 

[dan_atki]

Question.

I was recently told that on Northern and Merseyrail you don't need to date a box anymore.

True?

Nope, although there is an arrangement for active safeguarded staff to get free residential travel without the need to date a box. Within the NSE area (as shown on a London Connections map roughly speaking) there is a 40 mile limit to the free journey. Outside of this area the entitlement is only 8 miles.

 

[Gizmogle]

Ah. So, I live in Buxton and have a BR priv. My Dad is active safeguarded staff. Do I get this residential travel thing?

 

[glynn80]

Nope, although there is an arrangement for active safeguarded staff to get free residential travel without the need to date a box. Within the NSE area (as shown on a London Connections map roughly speaking) there is a 40 mile limit to the free journey. Outside of this area the entitlement is only 8 miles.

Are you sure about this, not everyone has residential passes and I'm pretty sure you can't just use it like you say, it has to be from your home to work and normally that has to be predesignated. Anyone care to enlighten us?

 

[class 313]

Ah. So, I live in Buxton and have a BR priv. My Dad is active safeguarded staff. Do I get this residential travel thing?

Why would you?

 

[dan_atki]

Are you sure about this, not everyone has residential passes and I'm pretty sure you can't just use it like you say, it has to be from your home to work and normally that has to be predesignated. Anyone care to enlighten us?

It is in the ATOC rules for RST and an arrangement that applies only to active safeguarded staff who are using their pass to travel to home/work so they don't have to date a box. Obviously, the quota of boxes is far less than the number of days worked in a year so has to exist. TOCNE is a different system.

Home to work is what residential travel is and that is why it is only for active safeguarded staff (sorry Gizzy).

 

[Gizmogle]

Ah. I was just wondering. Maybe this is what my Dad mistook the whole undated boxes on Northern thing for?

 

[bluenoxid]

If you have a Northern Rail Priv card (through working for Northern Rail), you will get free travel on Northern and Merseyrail. Everyone else has to pay.
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Do dependants still keep their boxes after they leave school/college I didn't think university living counted as still being a dependant?

As one of those who this applies to, yes we do up to the restrictions stated

 

[yorkie]

Ah. So, I live in Buxton and have a BR priv. My Dad is active safeguarded staff. Do I get this residential travel thing?

If you get a job within that range then very possibly yes!

 

[class 313]

If you get a job within that range then very possibly yes!

But that's as likely as BR coming back.

 

[First class]

Merseyrail do not need to date when travelling on Northern, and Northern do not need to date when travelling on Merseyrail. That is because they share the same parent company, SedNerco Railways. Any other PRIV is required to be dated.

 

[Gizmogle]

Merseyrail do not need to date when travelling on Northern, and Northern do not need to date when travelling on Merseyrail. That is because they share the same parent company, SedNerco Railways. Any other PRIV is required to be dated.

But that's only if you have a TOC specific priv. Not just a BR priv.

 

[First class]

But that's only if you have a TOC specific priv. Not just a BR priv.

Well all I can say is Merseyrail are extremely unlikely to ever actually ask you to date it, and Northern Rail are generally the same.

 

[class 313]

Is that not fare dodging effectively?