Jacob Porrett
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805011 at Crewe depot tonight. (27/8/24)
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Progress on Avanti West Coast's 805/807s Hitachi AT300 sets
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I think the initial delay was a set swop, leaving them 14 mins to turn around the Pendo. Cue the platform only being announced at departure time and the fabled Euston panic rush in full flow...
Jacob Porrett
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5K91 Chester to Crewe C.S was 805009 tonight. Seems to be a regular working in the evening.
DaveyJones
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1D91 Splits at Chester to form 5K91 to Crewe C.S. and 1D91 through to Holyhead. The train from Crewe C.S. in the morning attaches to 1A14 at Chester.
poffle
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There seems to have been a major improvement in AWC North Wales services over the last couple of weeks.
There was only one Holyhead train cancelled this week (1D80 BHM - HHD was cancelled CRE-HHD on Tuesday morning.)
Likewise the Wed-Fri of just week all the trains seemed to run. ( There was only a Crewe - Holyhead shuttle service running Sat - Mon over the bank holiday weekend.)
805s losing 20-40 minutes at random locations remains a feature however so they're not out of if the woods yet.
There was only one Holyhead train cancelled this week (1D80 BHM - HHD was cancelled CRE-HHD on Tuesday morning.)
Likewise the Wed-Fri of just week all the trains seemed to run. ( There was only a Crewe - Holyhead shuttle service running Sat - Mon over the bank holiday weekend.)
805s losing 20-40 minutes at random locations remains a feature however so they're not out of if the woods yet.
I've noticed that too.
Dare I hope we've now turned a corner with better working relationships?
Just sort these 805s out now!
I've noticed one diagram per day still seems to be voyagers - 1R25 0548 Holyhead-Euston, 1D83 0902 EUS-HHD, 1A62 1448 HHD-EUS and 1D93 1902 EUS-HHD.
Do we know if this is likely to change soon, or will it continue to be for some time yet?
HamworthyGoods
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The 05.48 HHD-EUS does not form the 09.02 EUS - HHD, it doesn’t arrive in Euston until 09.35!
There’s still 6 voyager traffic diagrams until the Dec timetable change.
DaveyJones
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There is still a pair of Voyagers on the early morning Birmingham - Euston which form the 09:02 - looks like it's 1R02 (there is a 5R02 Central Rivers to Birmingham).
A Pair on the 05:48 Holyhead/Wrexham to Euston (1R25) and a Pair on the Blackpool - Euston (1R14)
No Everos on any of the peak time trains
No, of course not - Senior Moment!
I think of the 0548 as the "early train" and what was for some time the "early train" - the 0448 off HHD, did form the 0902 back!
I didn't think even voyagers with their tilt could do the run in three hours!!
It‘s because more drivers have completed their training.
AIUI No new diagrams until December.
Railperf
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And most likely more train managers too. A recent service was canned from Chester because the TM was not passed for 805's.
webbstar11
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Anybody know where 006 and 007 are as my last 2
DaveyJones
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Back at the factory (Newton Aycliffe) - they went back in July
Northerngirl
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Just seen 807001 at edge hill in the avanti livery, looked very shiny so presumably it's only just been done
Been done for a few months, it was like that when it was delivered from the factory.
Northerngirl
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Oh, I thought they were all just grey still, clearly not
No, when they leave factory for delivery to Avanti, they are in full Avanti livery.
DaveyJones
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With the exception of 805002 (Still Grey) and 805004 (which was subsequently wrapped at Oxley)
LNW-GW Joint
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Looked promising today with 1D80 running throughout as a double set (805 004/5).
However the return 1A26 from Holyhead was delayed at Llandudno Jn with a "train fault" - now 93 late.
The earlier 1A19 0920 Chester-Euston was cancelled early on with the incoming ECS not leaving Oxley "due to a problem with the train crew".
DaveyJones
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Looks like 1A19 started from Crewe
Merle Haggard
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RTT shows it as two trains changing over at the Junction; and with the sets in reverse order from there so possibly a cab fault.
Later running nearly two hours late - but exceptionally was still sent forward from Crewe rather than 'pined' there
LNW-GW Joint
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It also meant the on-time 1232 Chester-Euston (2x221) followed a handful of minutes later throughout.
TPWS fault so the one unit was run-around the other, presumably burying the fault ‘in the middle’ which is why it could continue to London.
The pair is now on a Euston - Wolverhampton service so maybe it was to get them back to Oxley. Normally the 0853 ex Holyhead seems to form the 1502 back which splits at Chester.
Merle Haggard
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Quite customer focused not to tip everybody out at Crewe onto the (very closely following) next up Chester and send the duff unit straight to Oxley. I've had that sort of thing happen on E.M.R. - tipped out at East Midlands Parkway on a Nottingham so a 180 with a small defect can go straight to Etches Park. Maybe Avanti is better than we thought
Jacob Porrett
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Tonight's 5K91 from Chester to Crewe depot but was canned from Chester and started at Crewe was 805012.
themiller
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It looks like the driver’s taking his/her pnb at carlisle.
Pendomonium
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Should a set need to undergo a aux off/aux on reset during service, it needs to stand for 10 minutes to enable the computers to reconfigure. That could be one source of delay, followed by the inevitable loss of pathing.
LNW-GW Joint
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Today's 1A50 (1248 Holyhead-Euston, 805 005) spent 80 minutes at Chester, and as a result it was turned round at Milton Keynes to work the 1D91 return.
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Realtime Trains | 1A50 1248 Holyhead to London Euston | 03/09/2024
Real-time train running information for 1A50 1248 departure from Holyhead to London Euston on 03/09/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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