Query : has 378214 been extended to 5 car ?

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  1. 12CSVT

    12CSVT Established Member

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    I travelled on 378214 on the East London Line on Sunday but foolishly forgot to check whether it was a 4 car or 5 car (I had assumed that all trains on the ELL are now 5 cars).
    However on the same day, 378213 was on the North London Line as a 4 car, and as far as I'm aware the 378/2s are being extended in numerical order.
     
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    I think 201-210 only were extended as 10 dual voltage units is all the ELL can swallow up on top if the 378/1 DC only units. Any further unit extensions have to wait until the Watford-Euston, NLL and/or WLL gain their extended platforms. So I guess 378214 was just borrowed for the ELL while one of the extended 378s was out of service. I should explain that the ELL was due to get platform extension work completed first.

    The units are iirc so far being extended roughly in order but not completely so.

    I have no idea if the Wat-Eus, WLL and/or NLL are ready for longer 378s yet but I have not noticed any longer units on those lines. Its got to be imminent though.

    I have noticed that even a four car 378 seems very long when viewed from inside !.

    I swear there is a thread on the 378s but I cannot find it :oops:.
     
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    It's being suggested on the District Dave forum that the first 5-car service will operate on the NLL tomorrow, all being well.
     
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    The last delivery of 5th coaches was on 10/04/2015 when the 5th coaches for 378210/211/212/214 were delivered. I've seen it reported that 378214 is now 5 coaches long, although I can't personally verify it, but 378213 won't be (as you noted) as for some reason its 5th coach was not delivered in order.
     
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    In which case I *guess* that the 5-car 378214 was tried out early on the ELL (East London Line) where 5-cars is not a new risk. So that may well be what "12CSVT" saw.

    Oh and thanks "Clip" for finding the thread.
     
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    I've just added a post to the existing thread so it should be a little easier to find for a while (also thanks to "Clip" for saving me the bother of searching for it!)
     
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    378214 (complete with 5-car train decals on the front) was stabled at New Cross Gate depot today.

    Not sure what happened to the 5-car North London Line service - given the times suggested elsewhere I would have expected it to work 2N67 1355 Stratford to Richmond which was cancelled due to an error.

    http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/L22276/2015/04/21/advanced

    However, that error appears to have happened at Gunnersbury

    http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/L22233/2015/04/21/advanced
     
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  9. swt_passenger

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    Reports via District Dave that 378203 has been in service today, complete with 5 car signage on front. Here it is at Stratford:

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    378203 @ Stratford by dazz285, on Flickr
     
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    There is definitely one that has not got its 5th car as tonight I have just travelled up from London and there was one car sandwich between the barrier wagons behind a 66 at Willesden
     
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    That coach was for 378 215; was delivered last night and the barrier wagons should be on their way back to Derby later.
     
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    My assumption is that none of 378215-378234 and 378255-378257 have been extended to 5-car yet and perhaps a couple in the 378201-378214 range might not yet be 5-car..
     
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    I have been on 378 210 twice in the last week between Euston and Watford so presume that has not been extended yet (didn't bother counting the coaches :oops:)
     
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